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‘He just came at us’: Malmö shooting victim

One of the victims of the suspected Malmö serial killer Peter Mangs told police in interrogation what happened on the day when he was wounded and 20-year-old Trez West Persson was shot dead.

‘He just came at us’: Malmö shooting victim

West Persson and the victim had been sitting in a car outside a church in Malmö in October 2009, when an unknown man approached the vehicle.

”And then… then he just… just as we were starting to chat I saw some man and he just came at us. I wanted to start the car and drive off. But the car wouldn’t start. It sort of sputtered,” the man told police in interrogation, according to daily Svenska Dagbladet (SvD).

According to the victim, the man stopped, looked at the car and started to walk towards it. The victim told police how he got “a gross feeling” and that the guy was a “gross type”.

“I knew… it felt as if something was about to happen,” he said.

He continued to tell the police how he felt the mounting stress and how he just couldn’t get the engine going.

“And then he just shot. I didn’t see the shot, or anything. I didn’t even see his pistol. Then I saw it. Then I turned around and sort of tried to save myself, like protect myself somehow,” the man said according to SvD.

He recounted how he tried to talk to West Persson but didn’t succeed and how he got out of the car and ran. He then alerted some friends and subsequently lost consciousness.

Both West Persson and the other victim had sustained several shot wounds, of which some to the head. After the incident it took over a month before the man regained enough of the memories of the night to be able to explain to the police what had happened, according to SvD.

However, according to the paper, the nightmare didn’t end for the victim after the incident, as the prosecutor claims he continued to stalk him, mapping his whereabouts and putting together a document of him and his relatives, which was later discovered by police in his seized computer.

And five months after the shooting occurred, Mangs allegedly fired a series of shots at another individual in a Malmö apartment, thinking it was the man he had injured previously, according to SvD.

Empty cartridges of the same type as was used when West Persson was killed links the two incidents, according to police.

However, Mangs is adamant he is not guilty of the charges that were filed against him on Monday, but staff at the prison where he has been remanded in custody for the last 17 months says that he has admitted to the shootings on several occasions, according to daily Aftonbladet.

“It was so easy that I did it again,” he allegedly told a prison psychiatrist.

Mangs who was apparently cooperative in the beginning, has become less so as time has passed, reports the paper.

During later interrogations he has allegedly held his hands over his ears, closed his eyes, and sung the US national anthem, as well as Cliff Richard’s Living Doll.

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US criminologist lauds Malmö for anti-gang success

The US criminologist behind the anti-gang strategy designed to reduce the number of shootings and explosions in Malmö has credited the city and its police for the "utterly pragmatic, very professional, very focused" way they have put his ideas into practice.

US criminologist lauds Malmö for anti-gang success
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In an online seminar with Malmö mayor Katrin Stjernfeldt Jammeh, David Kennedy, a professor at New York’s John Jay College of Criminal Justice, said implementing his Group Violence Intervention (GVI) strategy had gone extremely smoothly in the city.

“What really stands out about the Malmö experience is contrary to most of the places we work,” he said. “They made their own assessment of their situation on the ground, they looked at the intervention logic, they decided it made sense, and then, in a very rapid, focused and business-like fashion, they figured out how to do the work.”

He said that this contrasted with police and other authorities in most cities who attempt to implement the strategy, who tend to end up “dragging their feet”, “having huge amounts of political infighting”, and coming up with reasons why their city is too different from other cities where the strategy has been a success.

Malmö’s Sluta Skjut (Stop Shooting) pilot scheme was extended to a three-year programme this January, after its launch in 2018 coincided with a reduction in the number of shootings and explosions in the city.

“We think it’s a good medicine for Malmö for breaking the negative trend that we had,” Malmö police chief Stefan Sintéus said, pointing to the fall from 65 shootings in 2017 to 20 in 2020, and in explosions from 62 in 2017 to 17 in 2020.

A graph from Malmö police showing the reduction in the number of shootings from 2017 to 2020. Graph: Malmö Police
A graph from Malmö police showing the reduction in the number of explosions in the city between 2017 and 2020. Graph: Malmö Police

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In their second evaluation of the programme, published last month, Anna-Karin Ivert, Caroline Mellgren, and Karin Svanberg, three criminologists from Malmö University, reported that violent crime had declined significantly since the program came into force, and said that it was possible that the Sluta Skjut program was partly responsible, although it was difficult to judge exactly to what extent. 

The number of shootings had already started to decline before the scheme was launched, and in November 2019, Sweden’s national police launched Operation Rimfrost, a six-month crackdown on gang crime, which saw Malmö police reinforced by officers from across Sweden.

But Kennedy said he had “very little sympathy” for criminologists critical of the police’s decision to launch such a massive operation at the same time as Sluta Skjut, making it near impossible to evaluate the programme.

“Evaluation is there to improve public policy, public policy is not there to provide the basis for for sophisticated evaluation methodology,” he argued.

“When people with jobs to do, feel that they need to do things in the name of public safety, they should follow their professional, legal and moral judgement. Not doing something to save lives, because it’s going to create evaluation issues, I think, is simply privileging social science in a way that it doesn’t deserve.”

US criminologist David Kennedy partaking in the meeting. Photo: Richard Orange

Sluta Skjut has been based around so-called ‘call-ins’, in which known gang members on probation are asked to attend meetings, where law enforcement officials warn them that if shootings and explosions continue, they and the groups around them will be subject to intense focus from police.

At the same time, social workers and other actors in civil society offer help in leaving gang life.

Of the 250-300 young men who have been involved in the project, about 40 have been sent to prison, while 49 have joined Malmö’s ‘defector’ programme, which helps individuals leave gangs.

Kennedy warned not to focus too much on the number of those involved in the scheme who start to work with social services on leaving gang life.

“What we find in in practice is that most of the impact of this approach doesn’t come either because people go to prison or because they take services and leave gang life,” he said.

“Most of the impact comes from people simply putting their guns down and no longer being violent.”

“We think of the options as continuing to be extremely dangerous, or completely turning one’s life around. That’s not realistic in practice. Most of us don’t change that dramatically ever in our lives.”

He stressed the importance of informal social control in his method, reaching those who gang members love and respect, and encouraging them to put pressure on gang members to abstain from gun violence.

“We all care more about our mothers than we care about the police, and it turns out that if you can find the guy that this very high risk, very dangerous person respects – literally, you know, little old ladies will go up to him and get his attention and tell him to behave himself. And he will.”

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