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8 of the most common complaints about France – and the solutions

France isn't always the easiest country and whether you're living here or just visiting, outsiders can find it challenging. From rudeness to slow service and constant strikes or closures, we look at some of the most common complaints about France - and how to solve them.

8 of the most common complaints about France - and the solutions
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France is a popular country to move to or to visit – it’s been the most-visited tourist destination in the world for several years running. But at the same time it also regularly tops polls of countries where newcomers find it hardest to settle.

Moving countries is challenging wherever you go, and simple home-sickness can happen anywhere. But there are some particular challenges in France.

We look at the most common complaints levied at France by foreigners, and suggest some solutions to these problems.  

1 The French are rude 

This is a common trope levied at French people, and in fairness plenty of French people also use it to accuse a specific group of their compatriots – namely Parisians.

Sure, there are rude and unpleasant people in France, as there are everywhere, but sometimes culture clashes can make the French seem rude to foreigners.

Bonjour – saying bonjour is extremely important in France, and every interaction – from buying a sandwich to ordering a coffee or entering an elevator – should begin with it. If you miss off your bonjour you will come over as rude to the French person you are talking to, and they’re likely to be rude back.

In extreme cases, they might even refuse to acknowledge your request until you have properly greeted them – this might sound unnecessarily formal to Anglos, but it’s about demonstrating respect and one of the key values of France; equality.   

Direct comments – it is true that the French can be quite direct. If you ask a French person whether your new ‘Jean Seberg’ haircut actually makes you look like Elton John, be prepared for them to give their honest opinion. It can come across as pretty blunt, especially if you haven’t actually asked for their opinion at all, but the French would see that as simply being honest. And perhaps it’s actually kinder in the long run. 

Correcting your French – this is a regular occurrence for non-native speakers. While it can feel like you’re being attacked or belittled, it’s usually (not always) offered in a spirit of helpfulness. It can actually be quite handy to have someone to remind you of the gender of that word you keep forgetting – and at least it’s free, unlike most French classes.

This brings us to the two big language complaints . . .

2 They won’t speak French to me

It can be frustrating when you have been diligently practising your French to visit France and find that everyone insists on speaking English to you. Likewise for recent arrivals, nothing destroys your language confidence faster than everyone immediately picking up on your accent and starting to speak English to you.

They key thing to remember here is that it’s not personal – rather than being a value judgement on your language skills, it’s more likely that the person is either excited to practice their English or wants to show off what they consider to be their superior language skills.

We asked French language expert Camille Chevalier-Karfis for tips and her advice was simple – ask.

She said: “I think the big difference is that French people tend to be more blunt and opinionated. If you don’t want to speak English they would expect you to say that and don’t really understand why you would be upset but say nothing about it.”

Bear in mind, though, that not everyone you meet will have the time or the inclination to be your language tutor.

READ ALSO How can I stop the French switching into English?

3 They won’t speak English to me 

The other side of the coin is people complaining that French people refuse to help out visitors by speaking English. It’s true that English-language levels in France are significantly lower than, for example, Sweden or the Netherlands where it can seem that everyone speaks perfect English. France regularly comes towards the bottom of European league tables for English-language skills, although this is starting to change.

If the person speaking to you refuses to speak English, the most likely explanation is that they can’t. Or at least, they think they can’t – it’s fairly common to have a French person describe their English as ‘terrible’ – before launching into an accomplished chat. It seems to be a confidence thing, we put it down to the famously strict French teachers shredding the confidence of their pupils.

There’s also a generation divide – older French people are less likely to speak English and more likely to be self-conscious about their accent. Younger people – the ‘Netflix generation’ who have grown up watching English-language TV and films – are more likely to speak English and happier to have a go. 

When it comes to official processes, these are almost exclusively in French and likely to remain so. There is a strong strand of protectiveness in France about their language, which is why there are laws covering things like the amount of English-language songs allowed on the radio and advertising slogans in English.

READ ALSO: Why are the French so protective of their language?

4 The service is bad 

French service is often slammed as slow and rude – but things are changing. It’s true that in the 1990s, Paris city hall had to run a campaign suggesting that service staff be nice to their customers.

The ‘grumpy Paris waiter’ remains an enduring cliché, but in truth he’s also an endangered species. While there are of course examples of bad service – especially in tourist areas – some visitor complaints are actually culture clashes.

Slow service – service in French restaurants is slow; deliberately slow. You’re out with friends or family for a meal and this is an experience that shouldn’t be rushed, goes the French philosophy. You’ll be given plenty of time to have a drink and study the menu, there will be a digestion pause between each course and feel free to linger over coffee/dessert/chat at the end of the meal. It’s actually pretty relaxing once you get used to it, but if you need your meal to be quick for a specific reason, such as having theatre tickets, it’s better to tell your server when you order. 

Suggestions – don’t be surprised if a server or shop assistant suggests that you order something else or even vetoes your choice. Working in restaurants or shops is considered a skilled occupation and staff will often have specialist knowledge about which wine pairs well with a particular dish, how things should be cooked or whether a certain cheese is appropriate for cooking with. They won’t be afraid to tell you their views, and you might end up having a better experience if you listen to them. 

FACTCHECK: Do French waiters really tell customers what they can order?

Tips – there’s much less of a tipping culture in France, as service is included in the bill. For this reason, don’t expect the server to act like your best friend – what’s considered good service in France is bringing you what you want and then giving you space to enjoy your meal and talk to your companions.

READ ALSO: How much should you tip in France?  

5 The bureaucracy is a nightmare

French bureaucracy is famously slow and cumbersome and if you’re moving to France you will have to face it.

Things are improving – especially as more services move online – and there are examples of surprisingly helpful bureaucrats (especially the staff at the tax office) but it’s true that the admin is time-consuming.

It might comfort you to know that it’s not only foreigners who find French admin hard to understand, 60 percent of French people also say the bureaucracy is confusing.

You do at least have the legal right to make a mistake when filling out forms, that was enshrined in 2018.

READ ALSO 7 tips for dealing with French bureaucracy

6 They’re always on strike 

France regularly tops the table for the highest number of strike days in Europe, but the reputation for striking is perhaps slightly exaggerated.

In truth, most private sector workers rarely strike – the strikes that happen in France are usually concentrated on certain sectors such as railways, air travel and teachers. What French strikes are is attention grabbing and deliberately disruptive.

So yes, it’s not uncommon for your flight to be delayed or your train cancelled because of strike action.

Updates – on a practical basis, while you don’t have any control over the strikes themselves, you can at least keep up to date with the latest travel news. French media covers strikes in detail – with updates on service provisions – and The Local offers the same thing in English in our strike section HERE. Don’t assume that everything will be cancelled when there is a strike, strikes vary hugely in how disruptive they are depending on the unions involved and the level of support they get. If you’re in a city, apps like CityMapper are also regularly updated with revised strike services and if you’re travelling by train the SNCFConnect app will alert you about delays or cancellations.

Philosophy – it’s also wise to try and adopt a somewhat zen attitude to strikes. If every strike drives you into a rage you’re likely to end up having a bad time in France.

READ ALSO How I stopped worrying and learned to love French strikes

7 It’s really expensive 

This is a complaint most often heard in Paris, which regularly tops international polls of the world’s most expensive cities.

Living in Paris will involve paying very high rent for a fairly modest home, while the cost of groceries, restaurants and bars can also be high – especially in the tourist areas.

READ ALSO 15 money-saving tips from Paris locals

Paris and a few other locations such as the Riviera can get very expensive, but other parts of France are surprisingly cheap – here are some ideas for the best locations to save money.

If you’re living here you will also likely be paying a lot of tax, the French are the most highly taxed people in Europe. You do get quite a lot in return though, from excellent and largely free healthcare to subsidised railways and government help in times of need – for example gas and electricity prices were frozen in France while elsewhere they spiralled due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. 

8 Everything closes on Sundays/ at lunchtime/ in August 

This varies a bit depending on where you are – in small towns or rural France it’s common for almost everything to close on a Sunday (boulangeries are usually open on Sunday mornings, and sometimes the supermarket as well, although you often won’t be able to buy alcohol), and likewise the lunchtime 12-2pm closing of shops and offices is often well observed.

READ ALSO The times to avoid when calling a French office

In the bigger cities you’re much more likely to find places that stay open at lunchtime and on Sundays, and if you want to eat lunch outside of the ‘official’ lunch period, you will find more ‘service non-stop’ eateries that serve food all day.

It is common for a lot of things to close down in August – from administration services to independent shops and even some non-urgent healthcare. This is because the French are largely on holiday.

They key here is knowing about the closures in advance (and memorising the public holiday calendar) to ensure that you are not taken by surprise, and don’t end up with no food in the house on the day that all the shops are closed.

It can take a bit of getting used to, but it’s part of the French commitment to ensuring a good quality of life and having regular breaks from work to relax, enjoy hobbies or spend time with loved ones.

When people are asked why they move to France, the quality of life and work/life balance is the most-cited answer. 

Member comments

  1. The language issue. The local médecin générale complimented me on my French and my ability to explain my symptoms and issue.. He then asked, what one called someone who spoke two languages fluently, I answered ‘un bilingue’. ‘Bravo, and what do you call someone who speaks one?’ Seeing my non-comprehension he grinned and said, ‘Un français.’ I suggest it’s an old joke, but apposite.

  2. When people want to speak English, I say, “Je suis professeure de langue. Je vende mes services ou je fais un échange, où on parle français pendant 45 minutes en ensuite on parle anglais pendant 45 minutes.” I insist that they correct my mistakes (and vice-versa), and that there be no translation. If they translate, I explain why they shouldn’t: if you translate, the student learns the language through their native tongue, rather than the foreign language, and it’s not the best method.

  3. I think another big reason why service in hospitality is often slow, or rude, is because many places are actually short staffed, plus have terrible management. I worked in hotels and restaurants for years and finding good staff with common sense and who are able to work long shifts is actually very difficult. Many places are almost constantly short. They are grumpy because they are exhausted.

  4. This is an extremely helpful article, it answers so many questions! Saying bonjour to anyone you want to interact with will change the outcome of the conversation. The info about beach rules and laws is also very important to know, thank you.

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What’s the deal with passport stamping in France?

There are clear guidelines in place about who should have their passport stamped when they enter or leave France - but the letter of the law doesn't always seem to be applied on the ground. Here's what you need to know.

What's the deal with passport stamping in France?

When you pass through a French border control post, officers will check your passport and – in some cases – stamp the date of your entry or exit of the country onto one of the blank pages in the booklet.

Although the system should be clear and simple, it becomes complicated when conflicting information is given on the ground.

Here’s what the rules say, and whether it’s really a problem if your passport is incorrectly stamped.

Who should be stamped?

The purpose of the date stamps for entry and exit is to calculate how long you have been in France, and therefore whether you have overstayed your allowed time – whether that is the time allowed by a short-stay Schengen visa or the visa-free 90-day allowance that certain non-EU nationals benefit from. 

Those people who are exempt from 90-day restrictions should therefore not have their passports stamped.

EU passport – people who have an EU passport should not have it stamped, because they have the right to unlimited stays due to EU freedom of movement.

Dual nationals – people who have passports of both EU and non-EU countries should not be stamped when they are travelling on their EU passport. However, because the passports of dual nationals are not ‘linked’, those travelling on their non-EU passports will be stamped, unless they have other proof of residency.

READ ALSO What are the rules for dual-nationals travelling in France?

French residents – the passports of non-EU citizens who have a residency permit in France (carte de séjour) should not be stamped, because they have the right to stay in France for as long as their permit is valid.

Visa holders – people who have a long-stay visa or a short-stay visitor visa should not be stamped, because they have the right to stay in France for as long as their visa is valid. 

Tourists/visitors – people making short visits to France who do not have a visa should be stamped, with the stamps keeping track of their 90-day allowance. Visitors from nationalities who do not benefit from the 90-day rule (eg Indians) are also stamped.

Travel practicalities

When crossing a French border, you should present your passport along with other documents – visa or carte de séjour – if relevant. Don’t wait for border guards to ask whether you are a resident.

It should be noted that the carte de séjour is not a travel document and cannot be used to cross borders, not even internal Schengen zone borders. The only valid travel documents for entering France are a passport or national ID card. Any other forms of ID – driving licence, residency card etc – cannot be used for travel purposes.

Border problems

While the rules on stamping are simple in theory, many readers of The Local have reported having their passports incorrectly stamped at the border, and this seems to be a particular problem for non-EU nationals who are resident in France.

Travellers are also often given incorrect information by border guards – for example being told that only holders of the post-Brexit Article 50 TUE carte de séjour are exempt from stamping, that all non-EU nationals must have their passports stamped or that only being married to a French national exempts you from stamping.

None of these are correct.

It’s also sometimes the case that people whose passports should be stamped – tourists, visitors and second-home owners who don’t have a visa – do not receive the stamp. For frequent visitors this can be a problem because it looks as though they have had a long stay in France, due to their exit not being recorded.

The system of stamping itself is also a bit haphazard with stamps scattered throughout the passport book in random order, so border guards sometimes make mistakes and miss an entry or exit stamp and therefore think that people have overstayed when they haven’t.

So how much of a problem actually is it if your passport is wrongly stamped?

It’s one thing to know the rules yourself, it’s quite another to have an argument with a border guard, in French, when a long queue is building behind you. Numerous Local readers have reported feeling that they had no choice but to accept a stamp when an implacable guard insisted upon it.

But is this really a problem?

One thing is clear – if you are a resident of France then you have the right to re-enter, and your proof of residency (visa or carte de séjour) takes precedence over any passport stamps. So it’s not a question of being barred from the country – it can, however, be inconvenient as it might lead to delays at the border while your passport record is queried.

Meanwhile people who did not receive correct exit stamps can be incorrectly told that they have over-stayed and even be liable for a fine. 

Will the new EES passport control system improve this?

Theoretically, the EU’s new Entry & Exit System – which does away with the manual stamping of passports – should get rid of these problems.

However, as we have seen, theory and what actually happens on the ground are two different things.

The EES system, due to come into effect later this year, brings in two main changes – it makes passport checks more secure by adding diometric data such as fingerprints and facial scans and it does away with manual stamping of passports and replaces it with scans which automatically calculate how long people have been in France.

You can read full details of how it works HERE

So that should eliminate the problems of unclear stamps, stamps being read wrongly or passports not getting the stamps they need.

Residents in France – carte de séjour and visa holders – are not required to complete EES checks and should have a separate system at ports, airports and railway terminals.

However, at present it’s pretty common for border guards to give incorrect information to non-EU residents who are resident in the EU – let’s hope that they are properly briefed before EES is deployed.

Have you had problems with passports being incorrectly stamped? Please share your experiences in the comments section below

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