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US immigrant sent on Swedish bank run-around

When US citizen Sylvie Acra arrived in Sweden and began her search for a job she decided it would be wise to open a standard bank account, but after three visits to three major Swedish banks she remains dissatisfied.

US immigrant sent on Swedish bank run-around

Sylvie Acra has been issued with a Swedish personal identification number and holds a valid Swedish work and residence permit. Despite this, she has been unable to open what she describes as a “functional bank account”.

“I first went to SEB and Nordea and they both told me that, as I was only looking for a job but did not yet have one, they were unable to accommodate me,” she told The Local on Thursday.

Ragnar Ros at Nordea confirmed to The Local on Friday that the bank’s policy requires “regular deposits” in order to open a bank account.

“It is not the same as having a job and there is no fixed amount required. We are currently looking over the issue as several people have pointed this out to us,” he said.

SEB’s press spokesperson, Eva Odefalk, told The Local on Friday that there is no explicit requirement for a prospective client to have a job but that their purpose for opening a bank account has to be assessed.

“We have to check to ensure that there is a legitimate purpose for opening the bank account and what it is going to be used for. This we do on a case by case basis,” she said.

Sylvie Acra also decided to try her luck at Swedbank, where her Swedish boyfriend keeps his money. She decided to call the bank first to see if her visit would be worthwhile.

“They told me that yes, I could open a bank account and told me that they had

never heard of the policies to which Nordea and SEB had referred,” she said.

But when Acra arrived at a Malmö branch of Swedbank she was told that, as her US passport was not considered valid identification, she could not be given a Visa debit card and had to make do without internet banking.

“They told me that I needed a Swedish identification card from the tax office – but the tax office told me that I had to wait six months, despite the fact that I have a (personal identification) number and a residence permit.”

“My US passport was sufficient to get that work permit, which will be enough to get me that ID card – but it is not enough to get me a standard bank account?” she said.

This is a situation that Anna Sundblad at Swedbank has recognised as something of a “Catch 22” for newly arrived immigrants.

“The question is: who has responsibility for this issue? We have issued ID cards before, and still do, but they are valid all over Sweden and we have to be certain [of a passport’s validity]. We are working with the Banker’s Association (Svenska Bankföreningen) to help the sector clarify the issue,” Sundblad said.

Lena Barkman at the Swedish Banker’s Association confirmed to The Local on Friday that according to tax agency regulations for applying for an ID card, a US passport is not classified as valid identification within Sweden.

“The tax agency (Skatteverket) has taken over responsibility for the issue. Many banks offer a service to their customers, but there is no obligation for them to issue ID cards,” Lena Barkman told The Local.

When she returned home, Acra decided to call Swedbank’s head office in Stockholm to check the bank’s policy. The bank’s customer service agent told her that although she would indeed have to make do with a Maestro card, there was no reason for her to be denied internet banking.

“This is a judgement that is made from case to case. We have no general rules for this and we have to make an overall assessment of the client’s financial position,” Sundblad said.

While Sylvie Acra is now able to deposit money in the bank and to withdraw it from ATM machines in Sweden with her Maestro card, she remains unhappy at the service she was given and intends to report the matter to the Swedish Consumers’ Association (Sveriges Konsumenter).

“I want to integrate in society and be a contributing member. And it seems that I am being excluded from basic things that are a part of moving into that country, such as having a bank account to be able to monitor expenses, and pay bills.”

Lena Barkman said that the clarification of rules and responsibilities for ID cards is a prioritized issue for the banker’s association.

“This is a problem that we are working actively with. We are part of the tax agency’s working group on the issue,” she told The Local.

The Swedish Tax Agency assumed responsibility for issuing Swedish national identity cards on June 1st 2009, ending a period of uncertainty since the now shuttered Svensk Kassaservice announced in early 2007 that it would no longer be issuing ID cards to non-Swedes.

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Readers’ tips: How to find the best bank for foreigners in Sweden

The Local asked its readers to share their tips about which bank offers the best account for foreigners living in Sweden. Here's what they had to say.

Readers' tips: How to find the best bank for foreigners in Sweden

Which bank offers the best option for foreigners in Sweden?

More than 180 readers responded to The Local’s non-scientific survey, and we got a wide range of replies.

No bank received a majority of votes, but Handelsbanken generally seemed to be the most popular (it was the preferred option by just over a fifth of readers), followed by Nordea, SEB and Swedbank – in other words some of Sweden’s main banks.

However, these banks got a relatively equal number of votes, and they were also frequently mentioned when readers were asked which banks they would recommend against using, so all in all, the survey didn’t produce a conclusive result.

We got the strong impression from reading all the responses that it may matter more which branch you use than the bank itself, as people’s experiences varied greatly even with the same company.

What makes a bank good for foreigners in Sweden?

It depends on what stage of the “moving to Sweden” process you’re at. If you’ve just arrived, you may be looking for a bank that’s happy to set up an account for you without a personnummer, the Swedish personal identity number which gives you access to a range of services.

If you’re buying an apartment, a bank that’s willing to give a mortgage to people without permanent residency or who don’t require a long Swedish credit history may be the best option for you.

If you’ve lived in Sweden for many years, those things may not matter as much any more and things like customer service, ease of online banking and interest rates may be more important.

Features that generally made readers like their bank included good customer service, convenient international money transfers, online services fully available in English and staff being willing to speak English to customers, cheap rates and, more than anything, being able to set up a bank account without having a Swedish personal identity number.

Conversely, many readers were put off by things such as invasive questions, perceived rudeness or discrimination due to not speaking Swedish, difficulties getting an account despite being eligible, long waiting times for an appointment, and a lack of any of the above services.

What are the need-to-know tips about banking in Sweden?

Although in theory you have the right to set up at least a debit account without a personnummer, it still tends to be the main stumbling block for newcomers. To spare yourself the hassle of negotiating with bank staff who may not be used to dealing with foreigners, several readers suggested waiting until you have one, if you can.

“Be prepared for a world of complications if you don’t have a personnummer yet. If you moved for work, ask your work HR person to help get you a coordination number, which can be used to open a bank account (even though sometimes the banks themselves are unfamiliar with this concept if they don’t work with many foreigners),” said Abigail, an American PhD student in Stockholm.

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Lowering your expectations and starting with a basic account without requesting a credit card or a mortgage right away, may help you get a foot through the door.

“All banks in Sweden are in for business. Contact the bank’s helpline and fix an appointment and walk in. There’s a misconception about banks in Sweden that you cannot get a bank account if you don’t have a job. Banks are very cooperative with opening accounts. There could be arguments when getting credit cards or loans, but for daily transactions they’re very cooperative,” said an Indian reader, now a permanent resident, who set up his SEB account without a personnummer.

Many readers also said knowing your rights and being prepared before walking in helps – and if possible, try to get an appointment to meet someone face to face rather than calling or emailing.

“Have every possible piece of documentation before you enter the service branch and maybe a printout of your rights entitling you to a bank account. I’m a non-EU citizen, I think this record abundance was crucial to my quick success,” said a US citizen in Malmö who was able to get his account and BankID on the same day as walking into one of Nordea’s service branches.

“Always be extremely clear and direct about your intentions with the bank. If you’re failing to make progress over the phones or via email, drop in to a physical location. I’ve discovered employees at many smaller or more rural branches are much more willing to help if I’ve been ignored at their central downtown branches or can’t resolve issues over the phone,” said Theodore Squires, a PhD student who said Nordea was unwilling to set up an account before he had his personnummer, but on the other hand gave him a mortgage despite limited tax history and a complex salary set-up.

Don’t be afraid to shop around, and there’s always the option of changing banks further down the road – perhaps start with one that is liberal with offering accounts to foreigners without a personnummer and, once you’re in the system, change to one that better suits your long-term needs.

“Nordea was a disorganised mess while I awaited my personal number and ID. It introduced me to the low quality bar for customer service in general in Sverige. I switched to SEB after I got my ID and staff were much more willing to help me get started in the country,” said Jeremiah from the US.

Some readers recommended online-only neobanks such as Revolut, as good options for a first account, as it’s often easy to set up an account with them and transfer money internationally.

But bureaucratic nightmares and long waits for an appointment notwithstanding, many readers urged fellow newcomers to Sweden to play the long game if your plans are to stay in the country.

“I could never get a credit card until my first year’s tax return was complete. Advice, if possible try wait for a year before trying to get credit. If rejected it just brings your credit score down and no one tells you it’s because they cannot see your income until after your first tax return is complete,” said Clifford, an IT consultant from South Africa.

“Be patient and endure. Like with many other aspects of life in Sweden,” said Dusan, a university lecturer.

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