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Ten things you should never say to an Andalusian

From calling them lazy to poking fun at their accent and mocking their Semana Santa celebrations, there are quite a few sure-fire ways to annoy an Andalusian which you should avoid.

things to not tell people from andalusia
They may be fun-loving and friendly, but poking fun at Andalusia's deeply ingrained traditions will raise pulses among locals. (Photo by CRISTINA QUICLER / AFP)

‘Anywhere south of Madrid is Africa’ is perhaps the most extreme cliché which caters to the notion that there’s a huge North-South divide in Spain. 

Andalusians, (from Spain’s southernmost region) are therefore often mocked by those who see the Spanish capital and northern half of Spain as more serious, affluent and productive.

Southerners are loud, idle, ill-spoken and all in all inferior, the stereotypes claim.

According to historians, Andalusians started to gain this reputation as more unrefined and untrustworthy than their ‘Castilian’ counterparts as far back as the 16th century, when Seville had become the ‘New Rome’ of Europe due to its trade links with the New World, leading to a heady mix of races and cultures living together in a raucous metropolis of ‘debauchery’. 

The Andalusian government has an article on their website in which it explains how this reputation for party over productivity came about.

Even famed 19th century writers such Gautier, Mérimée and Byron contributed to this image, despite being big admirers of Andalusia.

The stereotypes persist to this day, much to the annoyance of many Andalusians who do not want to pigeonholed. That’s not to say that Andalusians aren’t proud of their culture, language, cities and more – many will fervently defend Andalusia.

With this in mind, here are some comments you should avoid making to Andalusian people, unless you want to potentially find yourself in very hot water. 

Call them lazy

The stereotype that Spaniards are lazy is widespread overseas, but within Spain it’s the Andalusians who are classified as work-shy. It’s true that many andaluces have a more relaxed attitude to life and work, meaning that it can take a longer to complete certain processes or responsibilities, and the insufferable summer heat doesn’t help either. The unemployment rate is also one of the highest in Spain. 

However, there’s plenty of big business booming in Andalusia. Málaga has now become one of the continent’s biggest tech hubs. In 2021, Google announced that it would establish a hub in Málaga, giving rise to the moniker – the ‘Silicon Valley’ of Europe. Other international companies soon began to follow in the internet giant’s footsteps, planning their own Málaga bases, brands such as Vodafone, Citigroup, Banco Santander, GP Bullhound and EY.

READ ALSO: Why Spain’s Málaga is becoming a victim of its own success


Criticise their accent or tell them they have a lisp

Andalusians are known throughout Spain for having one of hardest-to-understand Spanish accents, so you can imagine how tough it is for foreign Spanish language learners with untrained ears. It’s certainly not ‘newsreader Spanish’, they do often swallow the ends of words and use a lot of slang, but it isn’t a worse or more incorrect version of Spanish than that spoken in Madrid or northern Spain. If anything, it’s a perfect example of the varied richness of castellano spoken across Spain’s 17 regions.

A condescending attitude towards el acento andaluz will therefore not win you any friends. In fact, a study by the Centre of Andalusian Studies found that four out of ten people in the region will get angry if you mock their accent.

Nor is it a good idea to say that Andalusians have a lisp. There is not one Andalusian accent but many, and the ceceo (pronouncing s, c and z all with a th sound), the seseo (pronouncing s, c and z all with a s sound) or making a distinction between c/z and s like in northern Spain all depends on the area of Andalusia. It’s not a speech impediment or lisp, they are linguistic idiosyncrasies.

READ ALSO: A handy guide to understanding Spain’s regional accents

Andalusians are made of fun often because of their accents. Photo: sgrunden / Pixabay
 
 
Tell them they’re overdressed

Most Andalusians love to dress up, particularly when going out for dinner, to bars or even just out for an evening stroll. It’s not uncommon to see whole families dressed up to the nines in suits, cocktail-style dresses and children with frilly skirts/smart shirts and perfectly polished leather shoes.

It’s totally the opposite to many other places in Spain, particularly in Catalonia where anything goes and no one would look twice at you if you decided to go to a bar in jogging bottoms, a t-shirt and flip-flops. But don’t poke fun at their love of looking good, maybe take a leaf out of their book and join them.

READ ALSO: What are the regional stereotypes across Spain?

Assume they’re all party animals

Andaluces are known to be the most outgoing, fun-loving, and gregarious Spaniards in the country with a love of going out and partying. One of the best times to see this is at one of their ferias, which are often held in spring or summer. While it’s true that the streets here are still buzzing after midnight, bars often spill out onto the streets and clubs are wild, it doesn’t mean that all Andalusians like this lifestyle. Many might prefer a relaxing glass of wine in a quiet bar or even to stay at home with a tasty cooked meal instead.

Not all Andalusians want to party all the time. Photo: Alexandru Cojanu / Pexels
 
 
Say that Andalusia is economically maintained by the rest of Spain

Be very careful if you’re making statements like this to an Andalusian. It’s true that Andalusia and Extremadura, along with the autonomous city of Melilla, are the Spanish regions that consistently have the lowest GDP per capita in Spain. Not being home to big cities and relying mainly on tourism and agriculture rather than business and industry means means they far lesser economic clout that the richer north.

However, Andalusia does support the country as a whole in pivotal ways. For example, around 80 percent of Spain’s olive oil is produced in Andalusia and it also grows the majority of Spain’s fruits and vegetables, many of which are exported all over Europe.

READ ALSO: Why are the Basque Country and Catalonia so rich compared to the rest of Spain?

Make fun of their Semana Santa

Semana Santa or Holy Week around Easter is a big deal in Andalusia. Cities go all out with elaborate parades, over-the-top costumes and huge intricate floats. Some parades last all day, while others go on in the middle of the night. The fact is that Andalusia’s Semana Santa celebrations can seem very sombre and serious when compared with festivals in other parts of the country, particularly Catalonia and Valencia’s fiery, crazy antics.

Many people make fun of this fact and Catalan TV station TV3 once put their foot in it by mocking Holy Week and dressing up an actor as the Virgin, which provoked a backlash of criticism on social media and outraged Andalusians. Many andaluces are still Catholic (practicing or culturally religious), so they take their Easter parades very seriously, from the music to the emotional saeta songs and even the right way to hold their candles. It’s a sacred tradition that shouldn’t be laughed at.

Seville is one of the best cities in Spain to spend Semana Santa. Photo: CRISTINA QUICLER / AFP
 
 
Tell them that Costa Blanca beaches are better

Andalusia’s Costa del Sol is one of the most favoured areas in the country when it comes to holidaying on the coast. The region has in fact around 1,000 km of coastline and contains everything from long swathes of caramel-coloured sand to dramatic cliffs, buzzing resorts and quiet fishing villages. Andaluces are rightly proud of their fantastic beaches but there is somewhat of a rivalry with Valencia’s Costa Blanca, another region which is very popular with tourists looking for the ultimate beach holiday. Every Andalusian has their favourite local beach and telling them that the ones along the eastern coastline are better is sure to rub some up the wrong way.

Argue that Andalusian culture is just flamenco

It’s all very easy to just say that Andalusian culture is all flamenco and bullfighting. Yes, Andalusia is the birthplace of the art form, the place where you can see some of the best performances and the region that still holds the most bullfights, but there is so much more to the region’s heritage.

For example, its culture is also influenced by its climate and history, much of which has to do with the Moors who ruled parts of this region for around 800 years. It also has a strong culinary culture with some of the best tapas found throughout the country, as well as varied musical styles and connections with the seafaring trade. You could spend months in the region and see so much culture, before even seeing one flamenco show.

There is so much more to Andalusian culture than just flamenco. Photo: Pascal GUYOT / AFP
 

Ruin their siesta

While it’s common abroad to assume that siestas are common practice all over Spain, it’s not really true. Nevertheless, they are much more common and taken much more seriously in Andalusia than in other regions as it’s one of the hottest areas in Spain with summer temperatures regularly hitting high 30s and even 40C and above. Therefore, an afternoon rest is necessary to hide away from the searing heat of the day.

Many shops, attractions, museums and even bars, and restaurants have particular afternoon closing times, particularly in summer. If you disturb an andaluz during this time, they’re not likely to be very amenable when they awake.

Assuming all Andalusians like to tell jokes

Another Andalusian stereotype is that they are all very funny and love to tell jokes. You may inadvertently annoy someone off by putting them on the spot and asking them to tell you a joke, just because they’re from the region.

This stereotype stems from the fact that they’re known for their friendliness and open nature, but also because people from Cádiz in particular are said to be more humorous and funny than the rest of Spaniards. This is partly down to Cádiz’s famous carnival celebrations which have humour at their centre, often with satirical songs, hilarious costumes and amusing wit.  

Cádiz is famed for its humorous carnival. Photo: Ben Kerckx / Pixabay
 
 
Article by Esme Fox and Alex Dunham

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Which Catalans want independence from Spain?

Catalan separatist politicians have taken on kingmaker roles in Spanish politics in recent months, but Catalans themselves increasingly see independence as unlikely. Which Catalans still support independence and which don't?

Which Catalans want independence from Spain?

Catalan separatists are playing an increasingly crucial role in politics at the national level in Spain, but the vast majority of Catalans themselves see the prospect of independence as increasingly unlikely.

This is according to annual survey data released by the Institute of Political and Social Sciences (ICPS) in Catalonia, which revealed that just 5 percent of Catalans polled believe that an independent Catalonia will ever become a reality. In 2015 that figure was 17 percent.

The survey also confirmed that support for independence (39.5 percent) remains well below support for staying within Spain (52.5 percent). Catalans will go to the polls in regional elections on May 12th in a vote many view as crucial for the stability of the national government.

Catalan pro-independence parties, namely Junts per Cataluyna and Esquerra Republicana de Catalunya, have essentially become kingmakers in Spanish politics following July 2023’s general election result and subsequent amnesty deal offered by Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez to cling onto power.

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Often when the Catalan question is discussed, particularly in the context of national politics, broad strokes statements are made about the people and politics in the region. Catalans are all separatists, some say. Some even say they are terrorists, or that only far-left radicals want independence.

But who really still wants independence? What are the demographics behind Catalan separatism, and what does it tell us about the future of the movement?

Age breakdown

A study by the Generalitat revealed that younger voters, between 16- 42, generally show less enthusiasm for independence than older voters. Young people are more likely to show preference for the current model (of Catalonia as a region within Spain) rather than full independence, according to a survey by the Catalan Centre for Opinion Studies (CEO) cited by El País.

CEO polling groups respondents by age, the ‘silent generation’ (over 78); ‘baby boomers’ (between 59 and 77); ‘generation X’ (between 43 and 58); ‘millennials’ (between 27 and 42) and ‘generation Z’ (between 16 and 26).

The results were stark. When asked “what should be the relationship between Catalonia and Spain” the preference for independence only exceeded 30 percent among baby boomers (34 percent) and generation X (32 percent). But even within these age groups, the most pro-independence, a fully-independent Catalonia barely convinced more than a quarter to a third of respondents.

Among younger people, however, regional autonomy was the preferred option for millennials (28 percent) and generation Z (29 percent), ahead of an independent Catalonia, which appealed to 26 percent and 23 percent respectively. Interestingly, in this sense young people are closer to their grandparents’ views than to their parents’ generation on the question of independence. Among the silent generation, regional autonomy within Spain had 33 percent support, and 27 percent supported an independent Catalonia.

A demonstrator waves a half-Spanish and half-Senyera flag during a protest by far-right party Vox against the government in Barcelona in 2020. (Photo by Pau Barrena / AFP)

Young men

Furthermore, delving further into the graphics, it becomes clear that young men are some of the least likely people to support Catalan independence. A survey published by Òmnium points to “a marked conservative movement and a move away from the fundamental values of sovereignty among the country’s youth” more generally but specifically among young men.

Young men, the study demonstrates, are the most ‘espanyolistas’ in the region, in other words, the least favourable towards Catalan independence and most likely to be pro-centralisation and Spanish. They are also the ones who view using the Catalan language as a lesser priority. However, this isn’t an isolated policy issue, and young men in the region are also more likely to be sceptical about climate change, the least in favour of paying taxes, the least feminist, and those who perceive the threat of the extreme right as the least relevant.

The study termed this the ‘derechización‘ (what we might call the ‘right-wingisation’ in English) of young men, a trend across the rest of the country and the world in recent years.

Class and income

Income and social class also play a role in pro-separatist politics, and the data suggests that separatism is more popular among people self-describing as ‘comfortably off’.

According to data from the CEO cited by El País in 2017, the real flashpoint of separatist politics in Catalonia, around a third (32 percent) of Catalans earning less than €900 were in favour of independence. However, over half (53 percent) of respondents earning €1,800 or more per month were pro-independence, while 54 percent of the wealthy (monthly income of €4,000 or more per month) wanted to see an independent Catalonia.

This also ties into educational level and class. Data compiled by the London School of Economics shows that independence is most popular among the highly educated (secondary and university levels), something that makes higher incomes levels more attainable and upward social mobility more likely.

Catalan origins

Interestingly, it seems that Catalans born outside Catalonia are more likely to be on lower incomes and therefore less likely to hold pro-separatist views. There also seems to be evidence that having a multi-generational Catalan background makes you more likely to be pro-independence.

As El País states, “even more glaring is the relationship between background and pro-independence sentiment. Among third generation Catalans – those with both parents and all four grandparents born in Catalonia – support for independence rises to 75 percent.”

“But this figure drops drastically when it comes to families with more varied backgrounds. Support for independence stands at 49 percent among those with one parent from outside the region and drops to 29 percent among children of immigrants.”

Geography

Geography also plays a role. As these municipality map breakdowns by RTVE show, if the population living in each area is taken into account, as in the second map, you can see that in the largest municipalities, such as Barcelona and its surrounding metropolitan area, the non-nationalist bloc holds the greatest electoral weight.

The maps are stark, but population even things even out: in municipalities where there was a nationalist or pro-independence majority in 2021, found largely in the country and smaller towns, slightly over 3 million Catalans live; but in the big cities, where people are more likely to be sceptical, that figure is almost 5 million.

As the Royal Elcano Institute put it in its analysis of the post-2017 political chaos, Catalan independence bucks the traditional rural/urban split: “While Scottish independence is viewed more favourably in big cities, in Catalonia the territorial divide is the reverse: rural areas register a majority in favour of independence, with urban areas having a majority against.”

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