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Current rules for Brits in France are as good as they are going to get, says ex UK ambassador

The current rules for Brits living in or visiting France are 'as good as they are going to get' - according to a former British ambassador to France, who believes the renegotiation of rules such as the 90-day limit is highly unlikely.

Current rules for Brits in France are as good as they are going to get, says ex UK ambassador
Peter Ricketts was the British Ambassador to France from 2012 to 2016. Photo: Jean-Pierre Clatot/AFP

The Local spoke to Peter Ricketts, who served as British Ambassador to France between 2012 and 2016, at an event organised by the Anglo-American Press Association of Paris where he shared his views on Brexit, future negotiations and Britain’s place in the world.

And on the subject of the rules for UK nationals either living in the EU or visiting regularly his message was a stark one – the current arrangement is the “high water mark” and unlikely to be improved upon.

He said: “I cannot see this government using time or negotiating capital on these issues, I think that the rights of expats are not a priority for either the UK government or EU governments.

“The agreements that are in place now are the high water mark.”

Brits who were living in the EU before December 31st 2020 are covered by the Withdrawal Agreement, which offers wide-ranging guarantees that they can stay in the countries that they call home, although those living in France need to apply for a residency card.

However the Withdrawal Agreement is not an exact replica of the rights granted as a citizen of an EU country and does not cover issues like freedom to move to a different EU country or voting rights.

READ ALSO Brexit Withdrawal Agreement – what is it and does it cover me?

Peter Ricketts with Queen Elizabeth II at the British Embassy in Paris in 2014. Photo by MARTIN BUREAU / AFP

Brits who do not live in France are now subject to Third Country National rules (the same rules previously in place for other non-EU nationals like Americans, Canadians and Australians) which restrict stays to 90 days or less and requires visas for longer stays.

Brits wishing to work in EU countries now need work permits for many jobs, and visas if they are planning to work for more than 90 days.

READ ALSO How can British second-home owners spend longer than 90 days in France?

There are several petitions and campaigns in place calling for a relaxation for these rules – especially around the 90-day rule which has had a big impact on second-home owners from the UK, who had become used to spending long periods in their French properties without having to worry about visas.

However, Lord Ricketts said he thought it was “unlikely” that these would be effective, adding that the UK government was likely to prioritise its negotiating time for trade and security talks, rather than the rights of second-home owners.

The Ambassador retired from the diplomatic service in 2016, but now sits in the House of Lords as a life peer and acts as a consultant to defence firm Lockheed Martin.

Giving his impression of the Brexit negotiations, he said: “I think we were all surprised at what a hard Brexit it was in the end, and how the deal was left to the very last days of December and just how badly prepared the UK government was, particularly in relation to the protocol around the Irish border.”

He said he feared a “very bad, adversarial relationship” between the UK and the EU, but added that the UK and France had better bilateral relations thanks to close military co-operation and a 50-year treaty regarding nuclear co-operation.

And those hoping for a better relationship between the UK and the EU might have to wait 10-15 years for the next generation of British politicians, according to Lord Ricketts.

He said: “I don’t believe that the generation that has grown up with Easyjet, Eurostar and Erasmus will be satisfied with a distant relationship with the EU, I think they will want to move closer when they take power in 10 or 15 years. That’s when the relationship will reset.”

Peter Ricketts’ book Hard Choices: Britain and the New Geometry of Global Power is published on May 13th.

Member comments

  1. This Statement is great, however it does not address the problem of driving licenses for residents living in France. What is happening with the process of transferring my UK driving licence to a French one before the end of the year. I have seen nothing in the UK Gouv WEB site to see this is even being addressed and the above statement confirms this.

    Totally unsatisfactory support after promises from the UK Gouv that all would be sorted out!!!

  2. Peter Ricketts is dead right: this is as good as it is going to get for British immigrants in France, for at least a generation.

    Unless…we win at the ECJ to retain (or regain) EU citizenship.

  3. What a contrast between Lord Ricketts’ clarity of thinking and that of the current ambassador Ed Llewellyn who, to be frank, is about as much use as a chocolate teapot, David Cameron’s right hand man and similarly useless.

  4. The current BA has to toe the ‘party’ line & reflect British policy – that’s how it works – he’s still a diplomat. However Lord Ricketts has retired & as such can now say it as he sees it.

  5. There’s a world of difference between the two. Ricketts was a career diplomat, joing the FCO in 1974 and staying there until 2016. He was also the first National Security Adviser and Head of the Joint Intelligence Committee. Llewellyn by contrast was a career gofer for various Tories, starting out in the Research Department (1988-1993, the same time as Cameron and Osborne), Thatcher’s PS during her final year as PM, then working for Chris Patten in HK and elsewhere and finally Cameron’s Chief of Staff from 2005 to 2016. His appointment to Paris was a farewell present from Cameron, comparable to the various favours he dished out to his entourage of cronies and gofers when he did a runner from his reponsibilities following the referendum, presumably because EL’s wife is French. That appears to be his only qualification for the post.

    I’ve heard him speak and followed his ‘career’ while ambassador: like his former boss he’s glib and fatally complacent.

    1. Interestingly, EL can be seen in the background of some of the photos of Margaret Thatcher’s ‘moment’ outside the Paris Embassy in November 1990 when she and Bernard Ingham barged John Sergeant of the BBC aside to announce that she would ‘fight on…. to win’. Sergeant had his back to the door and didn’t see her coming, but all the while his camera crew were audibly shouting ‘Behind you! Behind you!’ at him, like over-excited children at a matinée performance of Aladdin. I recall watching this live on the TV in the bar of the India Club at the Aldwych, having just emerged from the gents’ toilets, and being unable to believe my eyes such was the surreal nature of it all. My now wife and I were on our way to a Victoria Wood performance nearby but the comedy seemed much richer in Paris.

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5 things Brits in France need to know about swapping driving licences

Now that the dust has settled from the somewhat chaotic post-Brexit period, the system for swapping a UK driving licence for a French one seems to be running fairly smoothly. There are, however, some things that UK licence holders need to know.

5 things Brits in France need to know about swapping driving licences

This article is aimed at holders of a UK or Northern Ireland driving licence who are living in France – tourists, visitors and second-home owners can continue to drive in France on a UK licence and do not need an international driving permit.

British students who are studying in France on a student visa can continue to drive on their UK licence during their studies – if however they settle in France afterwards, they need to follow the below process for swapping their licence. 

1 You’re special

Well, maybe special is over-stating it, but the system for holders of UK and NI licence holders is different to that of other non-EU nationals, and also different to the system for EU licence holders.

The reason for this is that a pragmatic post-Brexit agreement was (finally) reached between France and the UK, in order to avoid the chaos that was triggered when thousands of Brits in France all tried to swap their driving licences at once.

Unlike almost all other post-Brexit agreements, this one applies both to people who moved to France before the end of Brexit transition period in 2021 and those who have moved here since. 

The below terms apply to everyone who has a UK or NI licence, regardless of their nationality or when they moved to France. 

2 But you still have to swap

It was technically always the case that Brits who were living in France should have swapped their licence for a French one, just as other EU licence holders do now, but in reality many people lived here for years or decades without ever exchanging their licence and there was little or no enforcement of the rule.

That has now changed and you must swap according to the following timetable;

If your UK licence was issued after January 1st, 2021 – you must swap within one year of moving to France.

If your UK licence was issued before January 1st 2021 – you only swap when you meet one of the following conditions;

  • The licence itself or the photocard is within six months of its expiry date. For more people the photocard expiry will come around first, but UK licences also require renewal when the holder reaches the age of 70
  • Your licence has been lost or stolen
  • You have been ordered to exchange your licence by a gendarme after committing a driving offence

For people who are exchanging because the licence is about to expire, it is important that you don’t start the process until your licence is within six months of the expiry date – early applications will simply be rejected.

3 It might not be as much of a nightmare as you think 

Unlike the old days when licence swaps were done by préfectures, the whole process has now moved online and is run through a single, central system.

The online portal for requesting a swap is known as ANTS and you can find it HERE.

If you haven’t used it before you will need to create an online account, or if you already have online accounts for French government services such as Ameli or tax declarations you can login by clicking on the France Connect button.

Once logged in, select Je demande l’échange ou l’enregistrement de mon permis de conduire étranger (I request the exchange or registration of a foreign driving licence) and fill in the details requested on the form such as name, address etc.

You might be pleasantly surprised by the fact the form itself is relatively straightforward (as French admin forms go), asking basic questions such as your personal details and the details of your driving licence.

You will have to upload supporting documents, but these are likely to be things that you already have to hand including

  • Proof of ID (passport or carte de séjour)
  • Proof of address (a recent utility bill or attestation from your utility provider)
  • If your driver’s licence is in a different name to your passport, you will need to supply your full birth certificate

You will also need to supply a photo – you can either use the internet-enabled Photomaton booths – find your nearest here – to create a digital photo with the required security code, or you can use the normal photo booths to print out a physical photo and send it by post after you have made your application. 

Once completed, you can use the ANTS site to track the progress of your application and upload any other documents that are requested.

4 But don’t leave it too late 

If you’re applying because your licence is about to expire then you cannot apply until you are within six months of the expiry date.

But it’s a good idea not to leave it until the last minute as the whole process does take time – things have improved massively since the dark days of 2020 and 2021 when people were waiting for years and their licences expired while they waited.

But it still takes time – the current average for a straightforward application with no extra documents required seems to be between four and five months, although processing times can vary, especially over holiday periods.

It’s therefore a good idea to make the application fairly soon after you enter that magic six-month window.

Once you make the application you should get an automated response acknowledging receipt – this is usually sent by SMS and/or email, it’s a good idea to check your spam folder if you don’t get the email.

Don’t panic if you don’t then hear anything for the next few weeks or even months, this appears to be normal. If your application is complete and there are no outstanding queries or other documents required, the next step will be a request to send in your old UK licence.

You send this by post (recorded delivery with a signature is strongly recommended) and at the same time you can download an Attestation de Depot de Permis de Conduire (certificate of deposit of driving licence) – you can use this to prove your continued entitled to drive in the period between sending in your old licence and receiving your new one.

Your French licence is then sent by registered post, and the window between posting the old licence and receiving the new one is usually not more than a month, you 

5 Help is out there 

If your application runs into problems or you have an untypical situation or find the ANTS website hard to use, don’t panic – help is available.

The Facebook group Driving in France – French Licence Applications is a good place to start with comprehensive guides and knowledgeable admins who are quick to respond to questions.

You can also chat to others in your situation and get updates on how long processing times seem to be.

If you have problems using the online system, your local France Services office may be able to help.

You can also head to The Local’s reader questions section, or email us at [email protected] if you have questions.

Digital licences

You might have heard about France’s new digital driving licence – unfortunately this is only available to people who have French citizenship (including dual nationals).

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