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Talking to self not evidence, court rules

Germany’s highest court has ruled that an overheard soliloquy cannot be used as evidence against a suspect, meaning that a two-year-old murder case will have to be re-tried.

Talking to self not evidence, court rules
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The Federal Court of Justice of Germany (BGH), based in the western German town of Karlsruhe, ruled on Thursday that talking to yourself belongs to the “innermost, unreachable area of the personality,” and therefore came under the jurisdiction of the freedom of thought.

The ruling was made following an appeal in a case from 2009, when a Cologne court convicted three people of murdering a woman, when, since the victim was never found, the decisive prosecution evidence was a series of overheard conversations, as well as monologues the main suspect was having with himself in which the word “kill” was heard.

That case will now have to be re-tried in another Cologne court, where other evidence will have to be assessed.

The court did rule that not all conversations with yourself count as private. For a conversation to be inadmissible as evidence, it must be recognizable as a private expression of thoughts. If it is clear that a suspect knows that someone may be overhearing him or her, whether in a public or a private place, that defence is no longer valid.

The judges ruled that talking to yourself is often characterized by the fact that sentences are often fragmentary, and therefore open to interpretation. “That is a substantial difference to a diary entry,” explained presiding judge Thomas Fischer.

Diary entries may be used as evidence in serious crimes like murder.

The Local/bk

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Teenager turns self in after attack on German politician

A 17-year-old has turned himself in to police in Germany after an attack on a lawmaker that the country's leaders decried as a threat to democracy.

Teenager turns self in after attack on German politician

The teenager reported to police in the eastern city of Dresden early Sunday morning and said he was “the perpetrator who had knocked down the SPD politician”, police said in a statement.

Matthias Ecke, 41, European parliament lawmaker for Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s Social Democrats (SPD), was set upon by four attackers as he put up EU election posters in Dresden on Friday night, according to police.

Ecke was “seriously injured” and required an operation after the attack, his party said.

Scholz on Saturday condemned the attack as a threat to democracy.

“We must never accept such acts of violence,” he said.

Ecke, who is head of the SPD’s European election list in the Saxony region, was just the latest political target to be attacked in Germany.

Police said a 28-year-old man putting up posters for the Greens had been “punched” and “kicked” earlier in the evening on the same Dresden street.

Last week two Greens deputies were abused while campaigning in Essen in western Germany and another was surrounded by dozens of demonstrators in her car in the east of the country.

According to provisional police figures, 2,790 crimes were committed against politicians in Germany in 2023, up from 1,806 the previous year, but less than the 2,840 recorded in 2021, when legislative elections took place.

A group of activists against the far right has called for demonstrations against the attack on Ecke in Dresden and Berlin on Sunday, Der Spiegel magazine said.

According to the Tagesspiegel newspaper, Interior Minister Nancy Faeser is planning to call a special conference with Germany’s regional interior ministers next week to address violence against politicians.

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