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France vs Denmark: How to deal with jihadists?

While Denmark is to plough millions of euros into helping jihadists reintegrate into society, France is taking a tougher stance as the public calls for more repression in the light of the terror attacks.

The French public want more repression and they would rather see jihadists locked up rather than reintegrated into society.

That’s according to the results of a major opinion poll released on Wednesday that has tried to gauge the mood of France three weeks after it was rocked by a series of shootings by homegrown terrorists.

The survey carried out by Le Monde and Europe 1 revealed that 90 percent of the public want tighter security, almost all (95%) want tougher measures for inmates who preach extremist ideals and nine out ten want to see jihadists stripped of their French nationality.

This perhaps should not come as a surprise with the country’s Justice Minister Christiane Taubira telling The Local and other foreign reporters on Tuesday that French culture demands that “those who cross the line are punished. Full stop.”

Her view was backed up by the poll results which showed the vast majority percent of people want the justice system, the police, and the prisons to play the main role in tackling extremist Islamists, rather than  the countrey's politicians.

The public would presumably be happy with the kind of sentence that saw a jihadist jailed for seven years after only spending 12 days in Syria. France has cases open against another 110 returning fighters.

Out on the streets of Paris, many people The Local spoke to on Wednesday wanted to see courts get tough on extremists and presumably 

“We have to make them suffer,” Rachid, a café manager said.

"Today prisons are like a holiday camp. Inmates should not be able to have any kind of contact with the outside world,” he added.

Pierre Gauthier, aged 51 said: “We have to extend their sentences and establish prison terms without minimum sentences.”

Philippe Chan, a sandwich shop owner said: “Stripping them of their nationality is completely appropriate for me”.

While France gets tough on jihadists an entirely different approach is being followed in Denmark, a country which, it’s worth pointing out, isn’t recovering its nerve after a shocking terrorist attack.

This week the country’s parliament near unanimously voted through the country’s new anti-radicalization plan, pledging to spend €8m on various projects to reintegrate those who had been persuaded by jihad.

“If someone does go down that road, we must do everything we can to ensure that they come out again,” said Justice Minister Mette Frederiksen.

(Danish Justice Minister Mette Frederiksen. Photo: Jens Astrup/Scanpix)

While Denmark has only around a tenth of the number of nationals fighting jihad in the Middle East as France does, it wants to make sure extremists are given every chance at reintegrating into society, although it does also promise tough measures for those "who continue down the wrong path".

One of the measures announced in the country’s anti-jihadist strategy last year was a new national exit centre to support those looking to leave the path of extremism.

At the moment nothing similar is in the pipeline in France.

One expert told The Local that France's approach remains too one-dimensional and too tied to the law.

“In France we have an essentially judicial approach. We need a more psycho-social approach,” Séverine Labat, an expert on Islamism at the CNRS research organisation, told The Local.

But with the public intent on seeing more security and tougher punishments a change in approach does not look likely anytime soon.

Although voices in France calling for rehabilitation rather than just repression are starting to be heard.

"These people should undergo 'de-radicalisation'," Pierre N'Gahane, the French official in charge of deradicalisation nationally, told Reuters. "But the question (of how), is still on table. We make no secret of that."

France does have a “de-radicalisation cell”, although it's only a pilot project that was set up in October last year with the support of the Ministry of the Interior.

(Sonia Imloul. Photo: Screengrab BFMTV)

The woman in charge of the team of psychologists and educators is Sonia Imloul (pictured above), who was chosen because of her years of experience working with disadvantaged and disillusioned youths in the poorer Paris suburbs.  

Since the Paris terror attacks Imloul has appeared regularly on French media to put forward her alternative way to battling against radicalisation.

“De-radicalizing an individual is by no means an exact science. There is no quick fix. But with this team we are moving away from a uniquely police approach, in favour of a more multidisciplinary method and especially cultural, which is new in France," she told the Nouvel Obs website.

And out on the streets there is support for her approach.

“Putting them in prison is going to worsen the situation,” a student named Ludmila told The Local.

Another woman named Christine said: "We have to get to the root of problems by starting with children in schools."

And there is support among the government with Justice Minister Taubira saying: “I think to protect people in the long term…. we’ll need to 'disindoctrinate' the terrorists."

But the minister added the caveat: "Right now France is not ready to hear about programs of de-radicalization."

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Today in Denmark: A round-up of the latest news on Monday

Find out what's going on in Denmark today with The Local's short roundup of the news in less than five minutes.

Today in Denmark: A round-up of the latest news on Monday
Sunny weather is expected all week this week. Photo: Niclas Jessen/Visit Denmark

Denmark’s former PM names new party Moderaterne 

Lars Løkke Rasmussen, Denmark’s former prime minister, announced on Saturday that his new centre party would be called Moderaterne, the same name as the leading centre-right party in Sweden. 

In a speech held to mark Denmark’s Constitution Day on Saturday, Rasmussen said the new party would attempt to unite Danes with a variety of different backgrounds and political viewpoints. 

“Some prefer mackerel, and others prefer salmon. Some have long Danish pedigrees, others have only recently chosen to live in Denmark,” he said.

What they all have in common, he said, is their love for Denmark, which is “among the best countries in the world”. 

“How do we drive it forward? We are trying to find an answer to that. How do we pass it on to our children in better condition than we received it?” 

Rasmussen said the party would not launch fully until after November’s local elections, but was ready to contest a parliamentary election if the ruling Social Democrats decided to call an early vote, something he said he did not expect to happen. 

Sweden’s state epidemiologist warns Swedes to be careful in “high-infection” Denmark 

After the per capita number of new coronavirus infections in Denmark in recent days overtaking that of Sweden, Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell has advised Swedes visiting their Nordic neighbour to be careful to maintain social distancing. 

“You need to keep [the infection rate] in mind if you go there, so that you really take with you the advice you have in Sweden to keep your distance, not stay with lots of other people, and not have the close contact that involves a risk,” he told the Expressen newspaper. 

He said Denmark’s higher infection rate was an obvious consequence of the country’s more rapid lifting of restrictions. 

“They chose to open up society relatively quickly even though they knew that there was a certain risk that the spread of infection would increase,” he said. “Because they had vaccinated the elderly and did not see that it would be that dangerous with a certain increased spread of infection.” 

Nils Strandberg Pedersen, former director for Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency called Tegnell’s comments “comical”. 

“It’s comical. It’s Swedish spin,” he told the BT tabloid. “Denmark has registered more infections because we test so much more than the Swedes. It’s not the same as having more people infected in the population.” 

More immigrants to Denmark are getting an education 

The education gap between first and second-generation immigrants to Denmark and people of Danish origin has fallen over the last decade, according to a story published in Politiken based on new figures from Denmark’s immigration ministry. 

An impressive 72 percent of 20 to 24-year-old first and second-generation female immigrants now completing further education of university education, compared to 58 percent in 2010.

Denmark records further 853 cases of coronavirus 

A further 853 people were diagnosed with coronavirus in the 24 hours running up to 2pm on Sunday, a rise on Saturday when 592 cases were detected, but still within the range of 600 to 1350 a day within which Denmark has been fluctuating since the start of May. 

Thorkild Sørensen, professor emeritus of epidemiology at the University of Copenhagen, told Ritzau that the sunny summer weather was allowing people to meet outside, and vaccinations were having an impact, allowing Denmark to open up without a surge in infections.

On Sunday morning, 138 people were being treated for coronavirus in Denmark’s hospitals, up four from Saturday, or whom 29 were in intensive care. 

Some 40.4 percent of the population has now received at least one dose of vaccine and 23.2 percent have received both doses. 

Sunny summer weather expected in Denmark this week 

Denmark is expected to have warm sunny weather with temperatures of 18C to 23C, with blue skies and little rain, Danish Meteorological Institute said on Monday. 

“This week looks really nice and summery, and it will be mostly dry weather most of the time,” Anja Bodholdt, a meteorologist at the institute told Ritzau on Monday.  “The only exception is Monday, when people in Jutland and Funen might wake up to scattered showers that move east during the day.” 

Danish property market show signs of cooling 

The number of houses being put on the market fell again in May, according to new figures released from Home, one of Denmark’s largest online estate agents. 

According to Bjørn Tangaa Sillemann, an analyst at Danske Bank, the figures suggest that momentum is seeping out of what has been a “scorching” market over the last year, although he said it was unlikely prices would actually fall. 
 
“Although demand seems to be declining, it is still high, and when interest declines, it can also make it less attractive to put your home up for sale than it has been recently,” he said.
 
At Home, 5.1 percent fewer houses were put on the market in May, while the number of apartments put on the market fell 9 percent, and the number of sales fell by 2.1 and 5.7 percent respectively.
 
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