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6 things my septic tank taught me about France

Taking on a major renovation project is always stressful, not to mention expensive, but it can also be quite educational. Here's what the complicated process of septic tank installation and certification taught me about French society.

6 things my septic tank taught me about France
The septic tank, mid installation. Photo: The Local

There are lots of rules

While most western societies have, for very good reason, quite strict rules on how sewerage is collected and dealt with, the French rules are very formally defined and require extensive paperwork for households.

From how far away from the house the tank is to how deep it is buried, via the type of collection system and the filter beds used, every aspect of a fosse septique is regulated.

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And this will not come as a surprise to people who have spent time here – France is a rules-based society and almost every aspect of life has a set of protocols or regulations.

It’s also true, however, that as with French grammar, most French rules have exceptions.

Septic tanks might, in fact, be one of the few exceptions to the rule about exceptions. But I think most people would rather have strict rules than face a situation where there is raw sewage in the streets of your French commune – although in our case that did involve having to cut down a beautiful walnut tree in order to make room for the new tank. 

But public services have open doors . . 

When installing a new septic tank or upgrading an existing one in order to become compliant with those aforementioned rules, you will come across a service called Service Public d’Assainissement Non Collectif, widely known as SPANC.

They have the power to either award the certificates of compliance that you need, or to order you to spend another €10,000 and do the whole thing again. 

But they don’t just turn up when the job is done, you can also go and see them before you start and make sure that what you’re doing is correct and you aren’t wasting your time and money.

Offices vary, but most of them are open to walk-ins, so you can just turn up and if there is someone around they will answer your questions.

And I’ve found this to be the case for a lot of public services – while some préfectures operate on an appointment-only basis, mairies are usually open to the public sans rendez-vous as are the CPAM public health offices and the CAF benefits office.

And as someone still scarred by trying to contact the UK tax authorities, it blows my mind that in France if you have a tax problem you can walk in to your local tax office and find a real live human being who can and usually will help you.

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. . . and are surprisingly helpful 

Which brings me to the issue of helpful public servants – and these really do exist, despite the fearsome reputation of French fonctionnaires.

At the start of our septic tank installation journey I went into the local SPANC office to see if they could give me any info.

The employee sat me down, asked me a bunch of questions about the property size, usage etc and then informed me that he had filled in the form for me. He then gave me precise instructions on what to do next, how to find a contractor and the final steps to ensure that we got the correct certificates.

And I’ve experienced this type of help a few times with issues such as planning permission and building alterations – you can walk into the mairie and ask for an explanation of what the rules do or don’t allow and the mayor will either be able to tell you or point you in the direction of someone else who will.

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I find that if you ask for help, most authorities are pretty happy to provide it (although exceptions exist, clearly).

But the process will still take ages 

As helpful as the officials were, the actual installation still took ages – around a year from initial enquiry to getting the final certificate of conformity. A septic tank has its own specific challenges such as seasons when you can and cannot excavate the site but in my experience it’s par for the course for official processes to take their own sweet time.

From registering for healthcare to getting your carte de séjour to doing things like swapping your driving licence for a French one or even applying for citizenship, French admin moves at its own pace.

One of the most valuable skills I’ve learned since moving to France is just accepting that things will happen when they happen, and there’s no point stressing about it. 

And it’s expensive 

Once you start renovating a property you already accept that you’re going to be spending some money.

When we asked readers of The Local who had successfully completed a French renovation project for their top tip, they said ‘double your budget’.

Building work the world over is notorious for time and cost over-runs, of course, but in France you may also find that you’re paying more than you expect for services from French tradesmen – which is partly connected to French employment law and the costs of employing staff in France.

Nevertheless, there are distinct advantages to picking established, local French firms – not least that they’re more likely to be au fait with all the rules and regulations that their trade needs to follow in France.

In our case, the staff at the septic tank installation firm we used clearly knew all of the employees of SPANC well, since they work with them regularly, and they arranged the necessary site visits and inspections between them, meaning that we had one less task to do.

Naturally there are French cowboy traders and there are non-French tradesmen who are diligent and thoroughly up-to-date with all the regulations required, but for foreigners it can be tempting to go for a compatriot simply because they speak your language. If you’re going to do this, I would definitely recommend checking them out thoroughly in advance.

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Every year there are cases of foreigners in France getting ripped off by expat rogue traders, while there are further cases of honest tradesmen who simply don’t understand the French paperwork and regulations as well as the locals.

If you’re not sure about the system, it’s a good idea if possible to find a tradesman who is, as it will make things simpler in the long run. 

And at the end of it all you get a beautiful certificate 

France still loves its certificates, which must be tamponné (stamped) by the relevant authority. Rubber stamps are a big deal here and only once a certificate is both signed and stamped is it official.

At the end of the septic journey we received a beautiful paper Vérification de l’exécution des travaux d’une installation s’assainissement non collectif, stamped by the local mayor.

This certificate is now in a file with a few other crucial ones and that will be the first thing I will save in the event of a fire – followed by my partner, naturellement

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What’s the deal with passport stamping in France?

There are clear guidelines in place about who should have their passport stamped when they enter or leave France - but the letter of the law doesn't always seem to be applied on the ground. Here's what you need to know.

What's the deal with passport stamping in France?

When you pass through a French border control post, officers will check your passport and – in some cases – stamp the date of your entry or exit of the country onto one of the blank pages in the booklet.

Although the system should be clear and simple, it becomes complicated when conflicting information is given on the ground.

Here’s what the rules say, and whether it’s really a problem if your passport is incorrectly stamped.

Who should be stamped?

The purpose of the date stamps for entry and exit is to calculate how long you have been in France, and therefore whether you have overstayed your allowed time – whether that is the time allowed by a short-stay Schengen visa or the visa-free 90-day allowance that certain non-EU nationals benefit from. 

Those people who are exempt from 90-day restrictions should therefore not have their passports stamped.

EU passport – people who have an EU passport should not have it stamped, because they have the right to unlimited stays due to EU freedom of movement.

Dual nationals – people who have passports of both EU and non-EU countries should not be stamped when they are travelling on their EU passport. However, because the passports of dual nationals are not ‘linked’, those travelling on their non-EU passports will be stamped, unless they have other proof of residency.

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French residents – the passports of non-EU citizens who have a residency permit in France (carte de séjour) should not be stamped, because they have the right to stay in France for as long as their permit is valid.

Visa holders – people who have a long-stay visa or a short-stay visitor visa should not be stamped, because they have the right to stay in France for as long as their visa is valid. 

Tourists/visitors – people making short visits to France who do not have a visa should be stamped, with the stamps keeping track of their 90-day allowance. Visitors from nationalities who do not benefit from the 90-day rule (eg Indians) are also stamped.

Travel practicalities

When crossing a French border, you should present your passport along with other documents – visa or carte de séjour – if relevant. Don’t wait for border guards to ask whether you are a resident.

It should be noted that the carte de séjour is not a travel document and cannot be used to cross borders, not even internal Schengen zone borders. The only valid travel documents for entering France are a passport or national ID card. Any other forms of ID – driving licence, residency card etc – cannot be used for travel purposes.

Border problems

While the rules on stamping are simple in theory, many readers of The Local have reported having their passports incorrectly stamped at the border, and this seems to be a particular problem for non-EU nationals who are resident in France.

Travellers are also often given incorrect information by border guards – for example being told that only holders of the post-Brexit Article 50 TUE carte de séjour are exempt from stamping, that all non-EU nationals must have their passports stamped or that only being married to a French national exempts you from stamping.

None of these are correct.

It’s also sometimes the case that people whose passports should be stamped – tourists, visitors and second-home owners who don’t have a visa – do not receive the stamp. For frequent visitors this can be a problem because it looks as though they have had a long stay in France, due to their exit not being recorded.

The system of stamping itself is also a bit haphazard with stamps scattered throughout the passport book in random order, so border guards sometimes make mistakes and miss an entry or exit stamp and therefore think that people have overstayed when they haven’t.

So how much of a problem actually is it if your passport is wrongly stamped?

It’s one thing to know the rules yourself, it’s quite another to have an argument with a border guard, in French, when a long queue is building behind you. Numerous Local readers have reported feeling that they had no choice but to accept a stamp when an implacable guard insisted upon it.

But is this really a problem?

One thing is clear – if you are a resident of France then you have the right to re-enter, and your proof of residency (visa or carte de séjour) takes precedence over any passport stamps. So it’s not a question of being barred from the country – it can, however, be inconvenient as it might lead to delays at the border while your passport record is queried.

Meanwhile people who did not receive correct exit stamps can be incorrectly told that they have over-stayed and even be liable for a fine. 

Will the new EES passport control system improve this?

Theoretically, the EU’s new Entry & Exit System – which does away with the manual stamping of passports – should get rid of these problems.

However, as we have seen, theory and what actually happens on the ground are two different things.

The EES system, due to come into effect later this year, brings in two main changes – it makes passport checks more secure by adding diometric data such as fingerprints and facial scans and it does away with manual stamping of passports and replaces it with scans which automatically calculate how long people have been in France.

You can read full details of how it works HERE

So that should eliminate the problems of unclear stamps, stamps being read wrongly or passports not getting the stamps they need.

Residents in France – carte de séjour and visa holders – are not required to complete EES checks and should have a separate system at ports, airports and railway terminals.

However, at present it’s pretty common for border guards to give incorrect information to non-EU residents who are resident in the EU – let’s hope that they are properly briefed before EES is deployed.

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