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Readers reveal: The biggest culture shocks for Indians in Sweden

For many Indians, it can be a shock arriving in Sweden in winter, with streets deserted, temperatures below zero, and darkness by 3pm. But that's just the start! Here are some of the most common culture shocks readers from India report.

Readers reveal: The biggest culture shocks for Indians in Sweden
Several Indian respondents said they had been surprised by the nakedness on display in changing rooms and bathing areas in Sweden. Photo: Tina Stafrén/Imagebank Sweden

Compared to towns and cities back in India, cities in Sweden can seem almost emptied of people, something that can take getting used to, reported one reader living in Jönköping. 

“It is so quiet here that in the beginning I used to wonder whether anyone lives in my surroundings,” she said. “Not seeing anyone in the street where I live and not hearing a single voice is a big difference from my home country.” 

Swedish reserve

Even when you do encounter a neighbour or a passer-by, it can be difficult to engage him or her in conversation, or even get a ‘hello’. 

“It’s difficult to make Swedes talk. You have to push them a lot to be social,” complained another respondent, who works as a software architect at Ericsson in Stockholm. “It’s worse than hitting on a new girl in a cafe or bar.”

“Swedes are reserved and not open,” agreed a respondent working for Volvo in Gothenburg, while a respondent working as a researcher in Linköping companied that “Swedes appear to limit themselves to their own circle of friends”. 

“Swedish people just don’t interact! It is so so difficult to socialise with them,” said a respondent doing a Masters at KTH, while another complained that “they never look or smile at strangers while passing them.” 

An IT consultant working in Helsingborg complained that “there is almost no small talk here”. 

Nakedness in changing rooms and unisex toilets

Swedish reserve does not seem to apply, however, when it comes to public changing rooms and toilets – at least compared to Indian norms, with many of our Indian readers struggling with the level of public nakedness. 

“I was already familiar with much of western culture through movies and TV shows, so public displays of affection and the dating culture in Sweden were no surprise for me,” says one respondent doing postdoctoral research at a Stockholm University.   

“But what came as a complete shock was seeing people get completely naked in the changing areas of gyms and swimming pools. That took some getting used to, especially the level to which nudity is normalised and accepted in the Swedish society.” 

One respondent living in Gothenburg said she had also found it difficult to adapt to the “common toilet for men and women”.

And of course, the absence of handheld bidets in toilets is as unwelcome in Sweden as it is in the US or in other European countries. 

“For Indians, it’s always the toilet paper when coming to any western country for the first time.  We use bidets, just need to press a button!” complained one respondent. 

It is possible to buy bidet attachments, called a krandusch, at Biltema and other hardware stores in Sweden, which can be fixed to a normal tap if you have a basin near your toilet in your bathroom. 

Flat hierarchy 

Both Indian readers studying at universities and those working for Swedish companies said they had experienced a jolt when they realised they were expected to refer to everyone by their first names. 

“Here, professors and managers are called by their name, not by ‘Sir’ or ‘Ma’am’,” one student reported. 

Another respondent said they felt the flat hierarchy in Sweden was “good”, although they objected to lagom, the Swedish principle of ‘just enough and not too much’ being “applied mindlessly everywhere”. 

Swedes often pay individually when eating together in restaurants. Photo: TT

Eating habits 

The Swedes behaviour in restaurants and when sharing meals together at home also took some getting used to. 

“It was the way people pay in the restaurant when they go as a group. In India we pay as a group, not everyone paying separately. This is still a big cultural shock to me today,” said a respondent working as a software developer in Stockholm. Another reader had been surprised that there was “no tipping culture” when people go to restaurants. 

It’s not just the way people behave when eating out, but the time that they do it. 

“It’s dinner at 6pm, early in the evening and [then people] continue drinking after dinner until late in evening, whereas in India we generally have dinner at 9pm and stop drinking after dinner,” said a reader who works at a company in Helsingborg. 

Another respondent complained that in Sweden, there are “no quick bite food stalls or snack shops”. Presumably, in his eyes, korv med bröd hotdogs don’t count. 

Rule following 

The orderly way Swedes approach crossing roads also came as a surprise to many Indian readers, with one reader from Chennai, who lives in Lund, remembering how amazed she was when she arrived 12 years ago to see people waiting at pedestrian crossings and cars stopping at red lights. 

“I remember the view from the Scandic Malmö down onto the street. I was so surprised that I called out to my husband, ‘Look! The drivers are respecting the pedestrians’. It was fascinating, because in India people don’t take any notice of traffic signals and also the cars don’t respect pedestrians.” 

Shops 

The same person said she had had problems initially adapting to shops’ opening and closing hours, a complaint made by many respondents. 

“In India, we have long working hours, and the essential shops are open to 11pm at night, so when you come here and the shops are closed by 5pm, you are like ‘come on!’.

One Indian respondent was harassed on a tram in central Stockholm, without other passengers coming to his aid. Photo: Janerik Henriksson/TT

People not coming to one another’s help 

Another aspect of Swedish reserve that came a shock to an engineer living in Stockholm was the reluctance of his fellow passengers to intervene when he got racially harassed by a man on the underground. 

“He started yelling things and then he started to point and say some stuff that I couldn’t understand, and then he called me ‘Paki’, which is like calling an Israeli a Palestinian. It’s not funny, so I got spooked.”

He asked a woman sitting opposite him for help, and to explain what the man was shouting about. 

“She just looked through me,” he remembers. “The strange thing was she was not the only one there. There were four people sitting next to me and I asked her in plain English for help, and nobody reacted at all.” 

“I asked my manager about this and asked, ‘are people here like this? If someone’s basic rights of people are being violated, why don’t people say something?’. So I was a bit mad at that time. I thought ‘maybe we’re in the wrong place, maybe we should just leave’.”

His wife then had a similar experience on a tram in central Stockholm. 

“The same thing happened with my wife and my wife’s friend, who is Italian, and once again people didn’t do anything. They just walk by. Maybe it’s a metro city thing. Maybe it would happen in Mumbai too, but I think in Mumbai people would say something.” 

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‘We all cheer each other on’: How we made friends in Sweden

Sweden is often rated as a difficult country to make friends in. We asked those who've been there, done that – or in other words, The Local's readers – how they met their closest friends in Sweden.

'We all cheer each other on': How we made friends in Sweden

“They are so supportive, caring and understanding,” said Erin Swoverland, a reader from the US, about her friends. “We all listen, lift each other up and cheer each other on. I feel so incredibly lucky to have such amazing women in my corner.”

She met most of them at a gym in Stockholm. 

“I attended a Friday training class for women and the rest is history. I will say I think it being a small, independent gym made all the difference as we actually spoke to each other. I haven’t had the same interactions at larger chains,” she said.

Erin was one of dozens of readers who responded to The Local’s question about how they found their friends in Sweden, sparked by a recent survey which showed that 13 percent of foreigners lack a close friend (double the number of Swedes who said the same thing).

A lot of readers alluded to the part-truth, part-stereotype that Swedes tend to compartmentalise their lives and prefer organised fun over spontaneous activities, and one of the classic strategies that always comes up in these discussions is to join some kind of club or society.

The benefit of “organised fun” is that Sweden has a vibrant föreningsliv (literally “association life”), with many people involved in for example their local football club, gaming hub, gardening society, trade union, hiking club, or even just being on the board of their housing association.

“As I always liked cycling, running, badminton, indoor climbing and a few other sports, I found groups on Meetup for such activities. This helped me meet like-minded people. Soon afterwards, some of us started to hang out together for beers or pizzas etc. Thanks to these people we started to invite other people to our gatherings. Finally today, I have a large network of very interesting and close friends (immigrants as well as Swedish friends). When I look back, I realise that it was much easier to get to know people in events having just six to eight people. If you go in a large group setting it is difficult to meet people as splinter groups start getting formed,” said a Pakistani reader.

“I have been in Sweden for over 15 years now. During this time our close friendship network has just increased. Like any friends, we fight and argue at times, but at the same time I know that my friends care about me. I feel at home in Sweden with this circle of friends.”

He wasn’t the only one who suggested joining a society (although one reader cautioned against “survivorship bias” and pointed out that not everyone manages to turn up at event and immediately make friends). Even if you don’t join a traditional club, readers recommended plenty of other networking opportunities, including sites or friendship apps such as Meetup, Bumble BFF, Panion and GoFrendly.

Nathan Lloyd, a Welshman in Malmö, recommends networking meetups, even if they’re not directly relevant to your own field, as well as Facebook groups. He met his best friend, Brian, via Grindr – not the only one we’ve heard of who made platonic friends on dating apps.

“He’s truly my best friend. Been friends for over six years,” he said. “We enjoy loppising together, going out in nature, birdwatching and art, a major thing we bonded over. He’s been there through highs and lows and helped me in emergency situations when I’ve needed someone.”

Nathan Lloyd, centre, with his friend, Brian, and partner, Tom, at the Konstrundan art weekend in southern Sweden. Photo: Private

Not being afraid of putting yourself out there and making the first move was another tip that came up in the survey, with many describing Swedes as warm friends – perhaps even surprisingly warm – once you break through the shell.

“First and foremost, don’t try too hard. Best friends are the organic ones that come in your life at the moments you don’t expect. Be open and give a shot to those who seem to be more open. Swedes who have been abroad frequently are exceptionally more pleasant to keep around,” said Hadi from Iran, who first moved to Sweden in 2010 and now lives in the south of the country.

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Peter, a reader who works at Lund University in southern Sweden, befriended his new neighbour after knocking on their door to ask if he could use their wifi until he managed to get his own.

“We have been very good friends ever since, even after I moved to another town. I find Swedes to be very friendly in general, but sometimes I need to make the first effort,” he said.

Robert Blomstrand, a born Swede who lived most of his life abroad, says he and his South African wife, Vanessa, met amazing friends in church and were surprised by their warmth and care.

“Through this we learned Swedish and had many wonderful Swedish experiences (sailing, meals, celebrations). Still very good friends,” he said.

Robert Blomstrand’s friends on a sailing trip to the Gothenburg archipelago. Photo: Private

Ioannis, based in southern Stockholm, said he met most of his friends through university or work and then made sure that the friendships were maintained after studies finished or work changed.

“Important first step was to accept that it is me, the one that has to make an effort. Then show interest in others, learn about who they are and how they are like. Share experiences with them, also offer help and support and ask for help and support. Independence and individualism can be an obstacle in creating social bonds. Make the effort, without expecting same returns. Give it time.”

“I believe that if you want a friend, you have to be a friend first,” said Jeremiah from the US. “My friends are people who were willing to invest in a building a relationship because they didn’t have them locally. We connected over the shared experience of being displaced and learning how to adult again. The connections grew because we had other shared interests, were willing to spend more time together, and were willing to help each other.”

“Focus on finding people who like doing things that you enjoy, like going to museums, movies, etc,” said a Stockholm-based reader, who made friends with his colleague after inviting him to a drag show at the Abba Museum.

“It’s so much easier to make friends during the things you like. Like any relationship, don’t try and rush it,” he added. “Just continue to reach out for times to hang out, and be OK with them not always saying yes the first time. We’re all busy. I also found it easier to make friends with folks, particularly Swedes, who weren’t from Stockholm (or whatever city you’re living in) as they generally have smaller networks/ open to make new friends in Stockholm.

Several readers expressed sadness that they hadn’t made any Swedish friends and that all their friends were fellow foreigners.

“I made friends through work (international company) and from my country of origin. I don’t have any Swedish friends even though I have been living in Stockholm for 15 years,” said a Colombian reader.

Some readers, however, argued that it isn’t necessarily strange, or a negative, that foreigners end up with foreigners, as you share similar experiences. Having a community with people you feel close to and have something in common with matters more than who they are.

“Close friendships are built because you share some experiences in life. I was an immigrant in Sweden, hence like all immigrants in Sweden I faced many issues time after time, for example issues related to visa or bank accounts,” said the Pakistani reader from the start of the article. “It is much easier to connect with people when you share similar issues. Don’t be afraid to talk about your experiences. This helps to bring us closer.”

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