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‘We can’t process them’: Britons in France face new confusion over bids to secure futures

France's no-deal law was meant to reassure Britons in France about their futures but it has only added to the confusion and problems British citizens have faced to get their hands on residency permits. Some local authorities are now saying they will not process residency applications.

'We can't process them': Britons in France face new confusion over bids to secure futures
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France’s new no-deal Brexit law was meant to reassure more than 150,000 UK nationals living in the EU27’s second-largest economy about their future status.

With just five weeks to go until Brexit day the new law – combined with a huge backlog of applications and certain local authorities apparently introducing their own rules – has merely created more confusion and worry plus extra hurdles for Britons desperately trying to get a Carte de Séjour residency permit.

Even long before the no-deal law was published earlier this month Brits in certain departments around France have faced problems when applying for a Carte de Séjour (CdS): long waits, a lack of appointments, inconsistent demands around paperwork needed or officials simply turning them away telling them they don't need one until after Brexit.

That's despite the Ministry of Interior and the British Embassy advising otherwise.

The no-deal law, which will give Britons a year to get the relevant Titre de Séjour for third country nationals, has muddied the waters even further and there are increasing reports of local authorities now refusing to process any applications until after Brexit.

The prefecture in Cotes-D'Armor, Brittany has issued a statement online to say it will not be offering further appointments for residency permits to Brits until June 2019 due to the fact “new provisions will come into force soon, modifying the conditions for issuing residence permits for British nationals already living in France.”

“We are waiting for the French government to give us more information on deals that are still being negotiated with the UK. We therefore cannot process British citizens as long as we do not know exactly what to do. If the elements become clear before June, we will reopen appointments before then,” Frédéric Maignon, a spokesman for Cotes D'Armor, told The Local.

There are reports of other prefectures around France taking a similar stance even though the Ministry of Interior hasn't, publicly anyway, changed its advice that Britons should still apply for a CdS now.

A spokeswoman for the British Embassy in Paris told The Local they had “received feedback from UK nationals in France describing isolated issues with certain local prefectures when applying for a Carte de Sejour.”

“The French Interior Ministry have assured us that any UK nationals currently living legally in France and exercising their EU rights are able to request a Carte de Séjour,” the Embassy spokeswoman The Local.

Most are doing so without issues but given that only 20,000 out of an estimated 150,000 Britons have acquired a CdS French officials face a tough few months ahead especially if there's a no-deal. If there is an agreement Britons would still need to apply for a Carte de Sejour but they would have until June 2021 to do so.

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Kalba Meadows, a rights campaigner and coordinator of the Remain in France Together (RIFT) group, said they had heard reports of local authorities refusing to accept applications by simply telling Brits to apply for the relevant documentation “when Brexit begins”. 

“There are a handful of préfectures which seem to have suspended applications until after Brexit but this isn't widespread. We're trying to get more details of it as it's hearsay at the moment, and I will be discussing it with the Interior Ministry when I meet with them in a couple of weeks,” she told The Local. 

One department in France which has received a high number of Carte de Séjour applications is Gironde in the south west, which is home to around 2,800 Britons.

When asked about what officials there were doing to help Brits a spokeswoman for the prefecture said: “It is difficult to answer specifically regarding the organizational arrangements within the prefecture as long as Brexit has not actually happened.”

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She added that officials there are simply not used to dealing with Carte de Séjour applications from Brits, given that as EU citizens “their right to stay is acquired without the need to hold a residence permit.”

Gironde is currently dealing with 200 applications from British citizens but it remains unclear whether those cards will be issued on time.

What comes next

It's clear that many Britons are holding back from applying for a CdS until they know more about what the future holds. Some are simply holding back  in the hope Brexit will never happen while others are reluctant to apply because they are fearful of being rejected on the grounds that they don't have income regular income.

While a no-deal would give them a grace period of one year to apply, they are likely to have pay a fee that could be upwards of €300 and they will also have to prove they meet minimum income requirements to show they are self-sufficient.

The fee, which has not yet been set by the Interior Ministry, is even likely to apply to those who have successfully obtained a Carte de Séjour and just need to swap it for a new card.

The positive news for those who have obtained a Carte de Séjour permanent – given to those Britons who have proved five years of legal residence in France – is that they won't have to demonstrate they meet the new income requirements.

Yet full details are still not available on whether UK nationals who manage to obtain a Carte de Séjour before March 29th will be privileged in the post no-deal landscape in which they will face more stringent residency criteria.

“Residence permits obtained before March 30th 2019 must be exchanged according to a schedule that will be specified later,” states the French government’s online resource on UK nationals’ rights in the event of a no-deal. 

A lack of clarity with just five weeks to go until Brexit Day is causing anxiety levels to rise.

“The biggest worry for Britons at the moment is that the decree that gives details of the resources requirements hasn't yet been published, so understandably people are worried as they don't know what it will say,” Kalba Meadows from RIFT told The Local.

“The other issue of concern is the cost, which also hasn't yet been published. So it's the unknowns that are the main concerns, as ever,” she said.

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Either way, some local authorities are having to focus resources to address the concerns of anxious UK nationals resident in their area – such as Dordogne, where more than 7,000 British nationals live. 

Since June 2018 alone, the southwestern department says it has sent 652 email replies to concerned British citizens who sought information about their status vis-a-vis Brexit, according to Aurélia Paillot, a spokeswoman for Dordogne prefecture in Perigueux.

Paillot added that the local government’s office that deals with migration issues may need to be expanded simply to meet demand from British residents in the event of a no-deal. 

Whatever the outcome of the Brexit rollercoaster, Paillot says the 7,000+ Brits under the local government’s jurisdiction in Dordogne will be treated like stakeholders.

“Once the (Brexit) decision has been finalized, a meeting will be organized in the prefecture to present the organization set up to manage the right to stay of British nationals, in conjunction with the representatives of the community,” Paillot told The Local. 

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Not all French regions are so keen to advertise their Brexit preparedness. “We are not in a position to answer any questions related to the registration of Brits in our region,” said a spokeswoman for the local government in the department of Gers, in the Occitanie region.

The Interior Ministry had not responded to The Local's request for comments at the time of publication.

For UK nationals holding out hope that the UK and the EU could still reach an agreement to ring-fence their current rights, a proposed Amendment to the prime minister's meaningful vote motion on February 26th by British MP Alberto Costa will be pleasing news. 

“This House… requires the prime minister to seek at the earliest opportunity a joint UK-EU commitment to adopt part two of the withdrawal agreement on citizens rights and ensure its implementation prior to the UK¹s exiting the European Union, whatever the outcome of negotiations on other aspects of the withdrawal agreement,” states a press release by rights group ECREU about the amendment, which will be debated on February 26th.

The Amendment reignites hopes for the 1.2 million Britons in the EU and the three million EU citizens in Britain that their rights could still be protected by a pan-European agreement. 

READ MORE: 'I am not alone' – How Brexit's Facebook groups can be life-saving therapy for anxious Britons

 

Member comments

  1. The Prefecture, Poitiers, Vienne, has established a dedicated English speaking section to process cartes de séjour applications. English Application forms can be downloaded from the internet which detail the documents required and no translations are required.
    The Prefecture will contact you thereafter to chose a rdv at their office for interview, which interview is very straightforward.

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5 things Brits in France need to know about swapping driving licences

Now that the dust has settled from the somewhat chaotic post-Brexit period, the system for swapping a UK driving licence for a French one seems to be running fairly smoothly. There are, however, some things that UK licence holders need to know.

5 things Brits in France need to know about swapping driving licences

This article is aimed at holders of a UK or Northern Ireland driving licence who are living in France – tourists, visitors and second-home owners can continue to drive in France on a UK licence and do not need an international driving permit.

British students who are studying in France on a student visa can continue to drive on their UK licence during their studies – if however they settle in France afterwards, they need to follow the below process for swapping their licence. 

1 You’re special

Well, maybe special is over-stating it, but the system for holders of UK and NI licence holders is different to that of other non-EU nationals, and also different to the system for EU licence holders.

The reason for this is that a pragmatic post-Brexit agreement was (finally) reached between France and the UK, in order to avoid the chaos that was triggered when thousands of Brits in France all tried to swap their driving licences at once.

Unlike almost all other post-Brexit agreements, this one applies both to people who moved to France before the end of Brexit transition period in 2021 and those who have moved here since. 

The below terms apply to everyone who has a UK or NI licence, regardless of their nationality or when they moved to France. 

2 But you still have to swap

It was technically always the case that Brits who were living in France should have swapped their licence for a French one, just as other EU licence holders do now, but in reality many people lived here for years or decades without ever exchanging their licence and there was little or no enforcement of the rule.

That has now changed and you must swap according to the following timetable;

If your UK licence was issued after January 1st, 2021 – you must swap within one year of moving to France.

If your UK licence was issued before January 1st 2021 – you only swap when you meet one of the following conditions;

  • The licence itself or the photocard is within six months of its expiry date. For more people the photocard expiry will come around first, but UK licences also require renewal when the holder reaches the age of 70
  • Your licence has been lost or stolen
  • You have been ordered to exchange your licence by a gendarme after committing a driving offence

For people who are exchanging because the licence is about to expire, it is important that you don’t start the process until your licence is within six months of the expiry date – early applications will simply be rejected.

3 It might not be as much of a nightmare as you think 

Unlike the old days when licence swaps were done by préfectures, the whole process has now moved online and is run through a single, central system.

The online portal for requesting a swap is known as ANTS and you can find it HERE.

If you haven’t used it before you will need to create an online account, or if you already have online accounts for French government services such as Ameli or tax declarations you can login by clicking on the France Connect button.

Once logged in, select Je demande l’échange ou l’enregistrement de mon permis de conduire étranger (I request the exchange or registration of a foreign driving licence) and fill in the details requested on the form such as name, address etc.

You might be pleasantly surprised by the fact the form itself is relatively straightforward (as French admin forms go), asking basic questions such as your personal details and the details of your driving licence.

You will have to upload supporting documents, but these are likely to be things that you already have to hand including

  • Proof of ID (passport or carte de séjour)
  • Proof of address (a recent utility bill or attestation from your utility provider)
  • If your driver’s licence is in a different name to your passport, you will need to supply your full birth certificate

You will also need to supply a photo – you can either use the internet-enabled Photomaton booths – find your nearest here – to create a digital photo with the required security code, or you can use the normal photo booths to print out a physical photo and send it by post after you have made your application. 

Once completed, you can use the ANTS site to track the progress of your application and upload any other documents that are requested.

4 But don’t leave it too late 

If you’re applying because your licence is about to expire then you cannot apply until you are within six months of the expiry date.

But it’s a good idea not to leave it until the last minute as the whole process does take time – things have improved massively since the dark days of 2020 and 2021 when people were waiting for years and their licences expired while they waited.

But it still takes time – the current average for a straightforward application with no extra documents required seems to be between four and five months, although processing times can vary, especially over holiday periods.

It’s therefore a good idea to make the application fairly soon after you enter that magic six-month window.

Once you make the application you should get an automated response acknowledging receipt – this is usually sent by SMS and/or email, it’s a good idea to check your spam folder if you don’t get the email.

Don’t panic if you don’t then hear anything for the next few weeks or even months, this appears to be normal. If your application is complete and there are no outstanding queries or other documents required, the next step will be a request to send in your old UK licence.

You send this by post (recorded delivery with a signature is strongly recommended) and at the same time you can download an Attestation de Depot de Permis de Conduire (certificate of deposit of driving licence) – you can use this to prove your continued entitled to drive in the period between sending in your old licence and receiving your new one.

Your French licence is then sent by registered post, and the window between posting the old licence and receiving the new one is usually not more than a month, you 

5 Help is out there 

If your application runs into problems or you have an untypical situation or find the ANTS website hard to use, don’t panic – help is available.

The Facebook group Driving in France – French Licence Applications is a good place to start with comprehensive guides and knowledgeable admins who are quick to respond to questions.

You can also chat to others in your situation and get updates on how long processing times seem to be.

If you have problems using the online system, your local France Services office may be able to help.

You can also head to The Local’s reader questions section, or email us at [email protected] if you have questions.

Digital licences

You might have heard about France’s new digital driving licence – unfortunately this is only available to people who have French citizenship (including dual nationals).

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