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‘UK show us the way’ say the French dreaming of Brexit

While French business and political leaders repeatedly call on British voters to reject a Brexit, there are many in France who are dearly hoping the UK quits the EU, so they can follow suit.

'UK show us the way' say the French dreaming of Brexit
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“Don’t leave us.”

That’s been the official message to the British time and again from the French government and its president François Hollande. A similar call has been made by French business leaders in recent weeks.

But many French people think differently to the establishment and are openly hoping that the Brits will divorce from the EU.

One of the most outspoken is French MP and 2017 presidential candidate Nicolas Dupont-Aignan.

The Gaullist Dupont-Aignan (pictured left below) is head of the sovereigntist movement, “France Arise” (Debout la France) and is staunchly anti EU.

“It’s now or never. The British have an historic chance to escape from prison and when you see a prison door open up, you have to get out,” he told The Local.

For him there’s no doubt a Brexit would pave the way for an eventual “Frexit” because he believes the EU would fall apart without one of its most powerful members.

“The French will be able to see that the UK will not be hit by catastrophe once it leaves the EU. It won’t be the apocalypse. Norway is not living in an apocalypse, Switzerland is not living in poverty.

“Britain was the first democracy in the EU and they are always giving us lessons, so it’s no surprise they go first,” Dupont Aignan said.

“And when the French get the same vote one day, there’s no doubt they will vote to leave the EU,” he added.

Recent opinion polls in France suggest Dupont Aignan and co might be onto something, although he would end up disappointed in the end.

In a survey in March a majority of French said they too should also get to have their own referendum on whether they stay in the EU.

But while 53 percent said they should also have a vote, some 44 percent said they would vote to stay, against 33 percent who would leave.

Nevertheless those who attended an event titled “Brexit and Us: A risk or a Chance for France”, at the French parliament this week to hear Dupont-Aignan and several other pro-Brexit  and pro-Frexit speakers, just want the chance to have their say.

“We want the British to show us the way,” Eric Raoul-Duval told The Local. “I think if you ignore all the politicians and the media, then a majority of French people would vote for a Frexit.

“The French already voted against the EU constitution in 2005 and we would do again.”

(France's most powerful EU sceptic Marine Le Pen. Photo: AFP)

There’s no doubt that over the years public opinion towards the EU in France has hardened.

A poll, published on Europe Day in 2014 showed that slender majority of 51 percent of the French still want their country to be part of the 28 nation bloc.

However that was down from 67 percent a decade before. In the same poll only 2 percent of French people said they were “enthusiastic” about the EU.

In December’s regional elections the anti-EU National Front party led by chief Eurosceptic Marine Le pen scored a record high number of voters – almost seven million.

And that came after her party topped the polls in France at last year’s European elections. Le Pen's party have long called for a Frexit referendum.

In the conference room at the French parliament the same complaints about the EU that have been heard in Britain in recent years echoed around the room.

The “unbearable constraints” the lack of “democracy”, “unchecked immigration from eastern Europe”, the fears of Turkey joining the bloc, the imbalanced US-EU free trade deal, and the loss of French identity and language, were all evoked.

In another repeat of the Brexit campaign in the UK, there was also much anger about the alleged scaremongering of the Remain campaign.

“Every time I look at the media I get the impression Big Ben is going to fall down in the UK leaves the EU, or that they will have to close up the Channel Tunnel,” said Francis Choisel, a historian and president of the Alliance for the France.

And most attendees to the round table echoed the belief of the Vote Leave campaign leaders who say that France would be just fine if it ditched the EU.

“We have the biggest tourism industry of any country in the world,” Jean-Christophe Lebert told The Local.

“The economy of a country is not everything, sometimes the personality of a country is more important. We have to be ourselves. We will never starve to death in France if we left the EU because there's food for everyone,” said Eric Raoul-Duval.

Away from the conference however and opinion across France was changing towards the possibility of a Brexit now that the crucial vote was getting near.

In previous opinion polls the French have stood out as the one country in Europe who were in favour of seeing the Brits leave. In fact one poll revealed there were more French in favour of Brexit than Brits themselves.

But this week a new poll suggested there was a clear majority of the French public who want Britain to stay in the EU.

Some 60 percent responded to a survey by the CSA institute saying they did not want to see Britain quit the EU.

The shift in opinion could be explained by the difficulties Europe is in right now with the migrant crisis and the threat of terrorism.

“In these troubled times, we have a tendency to look to keep the status quo,” professor Yves Doutriaux from University of Paris I told the Direct Matin newspaper.

“We don’t want the exit of a country to give ideas to others,” he said.

But that’s exactly what Nicolas Dupont-Aignan and other anti-EU voices in France are hoping for. And the latest opinion polls from the UK suggest they might just get what they want.

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5 things Brits in France need to know about swapping driving licences

Now that the dust has settled from the somewhat chaotic post-Brexit period, the system for swapping a UK driving licence for a French one seems to be running fairly smoothly. There are, however, some things that UK licence holders need to know.

5 things Brits in France need to know about swapping driving licences

This article is aimed at holders of a UK or Northern Ireland driving licence who are living in France – tourists, visitors and second-home owners can continue to drive in France on a UK licence and do not need an international driving permit.

British students who are studying in France on a student visa can continue to drive on their UK licence during their studies – if however they settle in France afterwards, they need to follow the below process for swapping their licence. 

1 You’re special

Well, maybe special is over-stating it, but the system for holders of UK and NI licence holders is different to that of other non-EU nationals, and also different to the system for EU licence holders.

The reason for this is that a pragmatic post-Brexit agreement was (finally) reached between France and the UK, in order to avoid the chaos that was triggered when thousands of Brits in France all tried to swap their driving licences at once.

Unlike almost all other post-Brexit agreements, this one applies both to people who moved to France before the end of Brexit transition period in 2021 and those who have moved here since. 

The below terms apply to everyone who has a UK or NI licence, regardless of their nationality or when they moved to France. 

2 But you still have to swap

It was technically always the case that Brits who were living in France should have swapped their licence for a French one, just as other EU licence holders do now, but in reality many people lived here for years or decades without ever exchanging their licence and there was little or no enforcement of the rule.

That has now changed and you must swap according to the following timetable;

If your UK licence was issued after January 1st, 2021 – you must swap within one year of moving to France.

If your UK licence was issued before January 1st 2021 – you only swap when you meet one of the following conditions;

  • The licence itself or the photocard is within six months of its expiry date. For more people the photocard expiry will come around first, but UK licences also require renewal when the holder reaches the age of 70
  • Your licence has been lost or stolen
  • You have been ordered to exchange your licence by a gendarme after committing a driving offence

For people who are exchanging because the licence is about to expire, it is important that you don’t start the process until your licence is within six months of the expiry date – early applications will simply be rejected.

3 It might not be as much of a nightmare as you think 

Unlike the old days when licence swaps were done by préfectures, the whole process has now moved online and is run through a single, central system.

The online portal for requesting a swap is known as ANTS and you can find it HERE.

If you haven’t used it before you will need to create an online account, or if you already have online accounts for French government services such as Ameli or tax declarations you can login by clicking on the France Connect button.

Once logged in, select Je demande l’échange ou l’enregistrement de mon permis de conduire étranger (I request the exchange or registration of a foreign driving licence) and fill in the details requested on the form such as name, address etc.

You might be pleasantly surprised by the fact the form itself is relatively straightforward (as French admin forms go), asking basic questions such as your personal details and the details of your driving licence.

You will have to upload supporting documents, but these are likely to be things that you already have to hand including

  • Proof of ID (passport or carte de séjour)
  • Proof of address (a recent utility bill or attestation from your utility provider)
  • If your driver’s licence is in a different name to your passport, you will need to supply your full birth certificate

You will also need to supply a photo – you can either use the internet-enabled Photomaton booths – find your nearest here – to create a digital photo with the required security code, or you can use the normal photo booths to print out a physical photo and send it by post after you have made your application. 

Once completed, you can use the ANTS site to track the progress of your application and upload any other documents that are requested.

4 But don’t leave it too late 

If you’re applying because your licence is about to expire then you cannot apply until you are within six months of the expiry date.

But it’s a good idea not to leave it until the last minute as the whole process does take time – things have improved massively since the dark days of 2020 and 2021 when people were waiting for years and their licences expired while they waited.

But it still takes time – the current average for a straightforward application with no extra documents required seems to be between four and five months, although processing times can vary, especially over holiday periods.

It’s therefore a good idea to make the application fairly soon after you enter that magic six-month window.

Once you make the application you should get an automated response acknowledging receipt – this is usually sent by SMS and/or email, it’s a good idea to check your spam folder if you don’t get the email.

Don’t panic if you don’t then hear anything for the next few weeks or even months, this appears to be normal. If your application is complete and there are no outstanding queries or other documents required, the next step will be a request to send in your old UK licence.

You send this by post (recorded delivery with a signature is strongly recommended) and at the same time you can download an Attestation de Depot de Permis de Conduire (certificate of deposit of driving licence) – you can use this to prove your continued entitled to drive in the period between sending in your old licence and receiving your new one.

Your French licence is then sent by registered post, and the window between posting the old licence and receiving the new one is usually not more than a month, you 

5 Help is out there 

If your application runs into problems or you have an untypical situation or find the ANTS website hard to use, don’t panic – help is available.

The Facebook group Driving in France – French Licence Applications is a good place to start with comprehensive guides and knowledgeable admins who are quick to respond to questions.

You can also chat to others in your situation and get updates on how long processing times seem to be.

If you have problems using the online system, your local France Services office may be able to help.

You can also head to The Local’s reader questions section, or email us at [email protected] if you have questions.

Digital licences

You might have heard about France’s new digital driving licence – unfortunately this is only available to people who have French citizenship (including dual nationals).

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