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BREXIT: The two mistakes to look out for on your TIE Spanish residency card

Many Britons who have received their new TIE residency cards in Spain have noticed that they contain information which isn’t accurate. Here’s what we know so far.

BREXIT: The two mistakes to look out for on your TIE Spanish residency card
Photo: British Embassy in Spain
 

What are the mistakes?

“Some of the new TIEs obtained via the EX23 route (those who already had a green residency and just wanted – it is optional – to exchange them for the TIE) have picked their cards up from several different areas of Spain but they are wrongly worded,” Anne Hernandez, head of the Brexpats in Spain organisation, told The Local.

These biometric cards, which should have the wording at the bottom saying “Residence Permit/Titre de Sejour” instead state “family member of a Union citizen”.

“Although they say ‘issued in accordance with the Withdrawal Agreement’ they also say a family member of an EU citizen,” Hernández said.

In theory, this would suggest that the residency card was obtained by being a spouse or a family member of a Spanish or other EU citizen, rather than it being a British person who has obtained the card in their own right by residing in Spain before December 31st 2020.

“Some of the TIEs are also wrongly dated,” Hernandez adds.

“A permanent TIE card should be 10 years but it seems they are being dated to expire in 5 years”.

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What’s being done about it?

The British Embassy published a post on Facebook on September 18th informing Brits in Spain about the wrong wording on the TIEs, adding that they had “raised this with the Spanish authorities who confirm that this was an administrative error”.

“Although this has now been corrected, cards with the incorrect wording may still arrive at police stations in the next few days,” the British Embassy added.

However, there are still comments being posted by Brits on groups such as the Citizens Advice Bureau Spain in late September, suggesting that some of the wrongly worded and dated TIEs are still being issued.

No mention has officially been made yet about the fact that permanent TIEs are being wrongly dated to expire in 5 years rather than 10. 

“We have been given to understand that these erroneous TIEs will be replaced by ones with the correct wording in due course,” John Carrivick, Vice President of Eurocitizens group, told The Local.

“This appears to be an error in production of the cards and not fundamentally one in the actual process of issuing TIEs themselves”.

Many TIE applicants have also pointed out that they have received the cards with the correct information on them.

But there are reports of the wrongly worded or dated cards being sent to police stations all over Spain, from the Canary Islands to the Balearics, Andalusia and the Valencia region.

Are the cards valid?

“The Spanish authorities have confirmed that, despite the inscription, these TIEs remain valid and we are waiting for instructions on how you should exchange this card for the correct one,” The British Embassy explained.

“We will post this information as soon as we have it.”

“In the meantime, there should be no question of the validity of the ones issued so far,” Carrivick reiterated, whose group Eurocitizens defends the EU citizenship rights to live, work and study for UK nationals in Spain and Spanish nationals in the UK.

“Even though the wording is erroneous, it doesn't affect the applicants' rights in Spain.”

But despite reassurances, many Brits in Spain who have received inaccurate TIEs do not feel at ease with having a document that doesn’t correspond to their status as the end of the Brexit transition period fast approaches.

The British Embassy and different rights group are in contact with Spanish authorities to find out when the cards can be replaced.

In some cases, police stations are sending the cards back when applicants immediately notify them of the wrong wording and dating upon collection.

Spanish authorities do require foreigners in Spain, especially third-country nationals, to apply for a different residency document if their status changes ie divorce from EU national, temporary to permanent residency after 5 years etc

This suggests that sooner or later, the issue of wrong wording on the TIEs for UK nationals will have to be addressed.  

UPDATE: 

On October 23rd the British Embassy posted an update on the issue stating that the cards issued with wrong information could be replaced for free at any police station.

Many of you who were issued with TIEs which wrongly state that you are an EU family member, have been asking us how to…

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EXPLAINED: When you can exchange visas in Spain

There are several different types of visas and residency permits you can get to be able to live and work in Spain, but what happens when your situation changes and you want to exchange your visa for a different one?

EXPLAINED: When you can exchange visas in Spain

There are many different reasons you may want to exchange the type of visa or residency permit you have. Perhaps you’re on a student visa and have completed your studies, but still want to be able to stay in Spain. Or maybe you’ve been on a one-year non-lucrative visa, but can no longer afford not to work and want to exchange it for one where you’re allowed to work. 

Read on to find out which visas are possible to exchange and which are not. 

Student Visa to Digital Nomad Visa 

The simple answer is yes, it is possible to exchange your student visa for the new Digital Nomad Visa (DNV) that first became available last year. This will, however, depend on your individual circumstances and what job you plan on doing.

Firstly, in order to apply for DNV you must either have a degree from the field you want to work remotely in or have three years’ work experience in that industry. If you’ve just finished your studies this could be possible, but if you were studying something different, it could prove difficult.

If you are an older student, you could definitely have three years’ work experience in the industry you want to work in or you may have gained the experience working part-time in Spain while on your student visa.

Secondly, you must make sure you have worked for the company that hired you for a remote role for a minimum of three months before you apply for the DNV. The main caveat is that the company has to be registered outside of Spain as you are not eligible for the DNV if more than 20 percent of your income comes from inside Spain. This means that you will have to secure a remote job in another country while still on your student visa, making sure that you stick to the 30 hours a week you’re allowed to work.

Non-Lucrative Visa to Work Permit or Self-Employed

Being in Spain on the Non-Lucrative Visa or NLV can prove to be expensive because you’re not allowed to work, but have to prove you have a significant amount of savings or passive income. If you want to stay in Spain, beyond the initial year, you may be considering a different residency permit. Luckily, you can exchange it for a work permit or self-employed permit in a process called residence modification.

During your last few months on the non-lucrative visa, you are able to apply for jobs in Spain, which may give you the possibility of being granted a work permit. There are many prerequisites, including having lived in Spain for a year and being offered a pre-employment contract.

You could also decide to become self-employed at set up your own business. In order to do this you will need to meet the requirements that current legislation requires for opening and operating your chosen business. You will also need to sign up to the autónomo system, pay your own social security fees and submit your taxes five times a year.

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Student Visa to Work Permit or Self-Employed

If you’re living in Spain on a student visa, then it’s relatively straightforward to exchange it for a work permit or become self-employed, if you want to be able to stay longer. The main requirement is that you have to have lived in Spain for three consecutive years, before you exchange it. This means, it’s really only possible for those who are doing a long-term course, such as a degree at a Spanish university. If you’re simply here for a year doing a language course, then it won’t be possible.

If you have been here for three years on a student visa, you have two options – the first is to find a job and become an employee by getting a work permit and the second is to become self-employed. If you opt for the first, the easiest way is to get a job offer and apply for the permit that way. Because you’ve already had a student visa and been here three years, it will be easier for companies to hire you as they won’t have to prove that there isn’t anyone from Spain or the EU that can do it first or that they have a shortage of professionals who can carry it out.

If you want to exchange it for a self-employment permit, you will have to present a business plan in order to get approval and prove you have the correct qualifications and experience to carry it out. If approved, then you will typically sign up to the autónomo system.

Student Visa to Entrepreneur Visa

Student visas are the easiest visas to modify in Spain, meaning you have many different options to exchange them if you want to stay longer. The Entrepreneur VisaVisado de Emprendedor is another option that will allow you to stay for a period of three years (with the option of exchanging or extending). It is, however, slightly more complicated to exchange to than simply getting a work permit or becoming self-employed.

The Entrepreneur Visa is especially for those who want to set up a business considered to be innovative with a special economic interest for Spain. Unlike becoming just an autónomo, you must agree to be able to create employment opportunities for locals in the future. You could also in theory exchange your NLV for an entrepreneur visa too, provided you can prove that you haven’t done any work while you’ve been living in Spain for the year on your NLV.

Non-Lucrative Visa to Digital Nomad Visa

It may sound confusing, but you can now actually exchange your NLV for a DNV too. Even though you are not allowed to work while on the NLV, you can actually decide to change it for a DNV, so that you will be allowed to work remotely either for a company or for yourself via clients. The Unidad de Grandes Empresas (UGE), the body that deals directly with DNV applications, has confirmed this is possible and The Local has heard of people who have successfully done this too. The only thing to remember is that no more than 20 percent of your income can come from inside Spain once you change over. 

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