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Reader question: How long should I expect to wait for my post-Brexit residency card?

As tens of thousands of Brits in France have now submitted their applications for post-Brexit residency cards, one question that we've been asked repeatedly is how long it takes to get the card.

Reader question: How long should I expect to wait for my post-Brexit residency card?
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What’s the process?

Thanks to Brexit, all British people who were living in France before December 31st 2020 need to apply for a residency card, known as a carte de séjour. This applies to everyone, including people who have been here a long time, those who are married to a French person or who previously had a carte de séjour.

In order to simplify this process, the French Interior Ministry has launched an online portal for applications for the roughly 200,000 British people who live in France.

You can find more about how this works HERE.

This applies to British people who were resident in France before December 31st 2020 only, Brits who move after that date will need a visa – find out the visa requirements HERE.

All applications must be done online, there is no facility to apply directly to your local préfecture. If you do not have internet access or are not confident with online procedures, you can find extra help HERE.

READ ALSO Where can Brits in France get help with post-Brexit residency applications?

How long will it take?

French bureaucracy is not renowned for its speed, so unsurprisingly one of the questions that we have been asked most frequently is how long the whole process takes.

We can’t give a definitive answer on this, and there are a lot of variables, but here’s what we know: 

Are applications being processed? 

Yes, the site went live on October 19th 2020 and applications are now being processed by préfectures. People who had applied on the no-deal site that was briefly live in October 2019 have been automatically transferred to the new site.

How long does it take to make the application?

The online portal represents a simplified, more user-friendly process that requires a lot less in the way of supporting documentation.

It varies depending how long you have been here and whether you already hold a carte de séjour, but most people only need to supply fairly basic supporting documents like passports, proof of address and proof of work/pension status.

You can find out more about the documents needed here.

If you get halfway through filling out the form and realise you are missing a crucial piece of paperwork you can save what you have done so far and go back to it.

How long until I get the acknowledgement of my application?

This is an automated email so should arrive in your inbox within half an hour or so – check your junk or spam folders if it does not arrive.

The email acknowledgement is important for two reasons – it gives you a reference number that you can use if you need to make any queries about your application and the email itself acts as interim proof of your residency status.

Until your card arrives, you can use this email as proof that you are a resident for all official purposes, including at the border if you need to travel, so we recommend printing it out and tucking it into your passport.

How long until my application is processed?

It depends.

Although all applications are done on the same website, each application is then passed to the préfecture where you live for processing.

Once your application is processed, you will then receive an email from the préfecture, giving you an appointment to come in and provide fingerprints and a passport-sized photo for your card, as well as showing original versions of the documents submitted in some cases. Most people report that this is a very straightforward process and takes about 10 minutes.

Préfectures and their staffing levels vary widely. Some will get thousands or even tens of thousands of applications from Brits, others just a few dozen, so processing speeds will be different. 

One of the speediest areas is Dorodgne where, due to the large number of UK nationals living in the area, the préfecture was given extra staff to process requests. They have already issued cards to 5,000 people.

Paris, where applications are processed by the Préfecture de Police, is also moving pretty speedily through applications with many people receiving their card already.

In other areas processing times vary, some people have already had their appointments, some have received an appointment date and others have as yet heard nothing.

This survey from citizens rights group Remain in France Together (RIFT) has an area breakdown.

Then when do you get the card?

Once you have had your appointment at the préfecture, the card will be posted out to you.

The Interior Ministry says this will be a couple of weeks after the appointment and most people who have received their card say it took no longer than three weeks after the appointment date to arrive.

When is the deadline?

The deadline for you to make your application on the site is September 30th – extended from June 30th, 2021.

For more on residency, healthcare, driving and travel after Brexit, head to our Preparing for Brexit section.

Member comments

  1. Hi,
    Our Carte de Sejour applications have been processed and my partner and I have been invited to have our biometric records taken at the Prefecture Cotes d’Amor.
    We have had to cancel one appointment as we are stuck in the UK at the moment and believe we cannot travel until the borders are reopened. However, does the requirement to have our finger prints and photographs taken for our residency permits constitute a sufficiently legal and exceptional requirement that permits us to travel from the UK to France?
    Any help would be gratefully received.
    Best wishes
    A.

  2. I’ve recently received my carte de sejour and must say the whole process was incredibly efficient, much more so than you might expect if you’ve had priors with French administration. The online application portal was very easy to use, no need to print or submit hard copies of anything by post. The application with the prefecture (Paris) came about 3.5 months after completion of the online portal, and the card itself another 2.5 months after that by registered post. The only minor hiccup on my side was that I received a notification that my dossier was incomplete after my prefecture appointment, which landed from a strange looking Email address into my junk folder. I am pretty cautious about unwarranted mail & given that the prefecture appointment was already done I was sceptical to say the least, but after eventually discovering that the Email was legit, it turned out the reason for the apparent incompleteness of my dossier was that I had submitted a CDI work contract which was more than 6 months old. I don’t recall any specification that in such a circumstance a more up to date document was needed and it wasn’t picked up on by the prefecture, however after I added my most recent pay slip to my dossier it was all closed off very quickly. So I suppose while you can’t avoid some element of ‘Frenchness’ in the process (yes it might not have explicitly specified that a work contract must be 6 months old or younger, but that is the rule you’re still expected to know), it was overall a pretty smooth process for me personally.

    Now for the minefield of the driving licence…..

  3. My wife and I initially applied to exchange our pre Brexit cartes de sejour on the no deal website way back in October 2019. We received an acknowledgement at the time and a further update in February 2020 telling us everything was on file and we would be contacted further in due course. We received an email from our local prefecture ( Gueret in Creuse ) at the beginning of March giving us both appointments on 16th and this was quick and efficient. The new cards arrived by recorded delivery on 27th! At every stage ( we had to produce full paper dossiers ) everyone was efficient and courteous and very helpful and the process went without a hitch. As was stated by a previous member, now for driving licences and also vaccinations!

  4. Just to add to the comments – we applied on-line in December ( Charente Maritime) – very straightforward-, got a date in February to go to La Rochelle, the process took just 10 minutes, and were told it would take 3 to 4 months to receive the cards. They turned up about two weeks later! So, nothing to worry about.

  5. Good luck to everyone with their CDS. Ours took 18 months instead of the promised 2. We did finally get our 4 year Talent Visas though.

  6. The process was unusually smooth and efficient. Emails were polite and clear. Interview was short—only a couple questions and one I couldn’t answer and she just shrugged. I did take my French birth certificate which I wasn’t required to do but it certainly shifted her attitude. I went with all the documents referenced in my application and she only ask for my ID photo and passport. So grateful for the simplicity of the process. I was told I’d receive card within six weeks after finger printing, and it came in three weeks: a six year residency till October 2026—I’m over the moon appreciative. Now to figure out citizenship.

    1. Really helpful comments, thank you. I have yet to have my appointment and worry about my French…!

          1. She asked if I was really born in Paris & I produced my certificate
            She asked date of my divorce that I had left blank – I said I didn’t remember she shrugged and then I recalled month & year

            Ok
            That’s it

  7. I had my appointment at the beginning of March and I am still waiting for my card to be posted?
    What can be done about that? Is there someone I can contact

  8. I applied on October 22nd and was given a reference number. My wife applied the same day and has had her carte de sejour for two months. I sent a handwritten letter to the prefecture requesting an update but have heard nothing. Seven months! I’m wondering if my application has been mislaid but don’t want to complicate things by applying again. Has anyone else had to wait this long?

  9. On residency card applications
    Do you have to write your application in French or can you use English?
    thanks

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Europe’s new EES passport checks: Your questions answered

The EU's new passport control Entry & Exit System (EES) is scheduled to come into force later this year and is already causing anxiety for many travellers. We've answered your questions on the new system and how it will work.

Europe's new EES passport checks: Your questions answered

Two big changes are coming for travel in and out of the EU and Schengen zone – EES and ETIAS.

You can find an overview HERE on what they mean, but broadly EES is an enhanced passport check at the border including biometric information while ETIAS is a visa waiver required for tourists making short visits.

Despite being scheduled to begin later this year, many aspects of how EES will actually work on the ground are still unclear – while much of the available information is for people who are travelling as tourists (rather than foreigners living in an EU or Schengen zone country).

So we asked readers of The Local to send us your questions.

Here we take a look at some of the most commonly asked questions – including the situation for dual-nationals, for non-EU citizens resident in Europe, for second-home owners and the situation at the UK-France border.

Some answers are still unclear – either because they have not yet been finalised or because the available information is not very specific. Where we have had to answer “we don’t know”, we will continue to badger the European Commission plus national and port authorities on your behalf. We will update this article when we know more. 

When is this coming into effect?

Good question. Believe it or not, discussions on the Entry & Exit System began in 2011. At that time the UK was part of the EU and was reportedly enthusiastic about EES. Things changed and now the border between France and the UK – an external EU border since Brexit – is a major worry. More on that below.

Anyway, it’s been a long term project and the start dates have been postponed multiple times, first because of Covid and then because infrastructure was not ready. The most recent postponement came at the request of France, which wanted to get the Paris Olympics over with before any border changes were made.

The EU now says that the start date for EES is the “second half of 2024” – UK media have reported October 6th as a possible start date while European airports have reportedly told to be ready by November. Meanwhile the French interior ministry says that the start is envisaged  “between the final part of 2024 and the beginning of 2025”.

We’ll see. 

Who does it affect?

EES is aimed at non-EU travellers who are a crossing an EU/Schengen external border.

EU citizens will not have to complete EES registration.

Neither will non-EU citizens who have residency in an EU or Schengen zone country – they will need to produce proof of residency such as a residency permit or long-stay visa.

Neither will non-EU residents who have a valid short-stay visa for a country in the EU. This could include second-home owners who have obtained a short-stay (under six months) visa in order to allow them unlimited visits to their holiday home.

However citizens from countries which do not benefit from the 90-day rule and who therefore need a visa even for short visits (eg Indians) will have to complete EES registration.

It does not apply when travelling between Schengen zone countries (more on that below).

Where does it apply?

EES is about external EU/Schengen borders, so does not apply if you are travelling within the Schengen zone – eg taking the train from France to Germany or flying from Spain to Sweden.

Ireland and Cyprus, despite being in the EU, are not in the Schengen zone so will not be using EES, they will continue to stamp passports manually.

Norway, Switzerland and Iceland – countries that are in the Schengen zone but not in the EU – will be using EES.

The full list of countries using EES is: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland. 

Therefore a journey between any of the countries listed above will not be covered by EES.

However a journey in or out of any of those countries from a country not listed above will be covered by EES. 

What is EES pre-registration?

You’ll soon be hearing a lot about EES “pre-registration”. EES itself is basically an enhanced passport check – travellers will need to register their biometric details (fingerprints and facial scans) to enhance the security of passport checks.

Automated passport checks will also start to calculate how long you have been in the EU, and therefore automatically detect over-stayers (eg people who have over-stayed their visa or who have over-stayed their 90-day allowance). EES does not change any of the rules regarding length of stay, it just toughens up enforcement of them. 

The first time that you cross an external Schengen border you will need to register additional details including fingerprints and a facial scan, and have them electronically linked to your passport. This takes place in a special zone at the airport/port/station that is your departure point.

Once you have completed the pre-registration, you then proceed to passport scanning. 

The pre-registration only needs to be done once and then lasts for three years. Those three years renew every time you cross an external border, so regular travellers shouldn’t need to renew it until they get a new passport – at which point the pre-registration must be done again.

Does pre-registration have to be done at the airport/port/station? Can’t I do it on a website or app?

Advance registration is what many travel operators, especially in the UK, are calling for. They say that getting everyone to complete pre-registration in person on site will cause chaos.

However, the EU at the moment seems to be sticking to the original idea of in-person registration. There are a number of practical problems with trying to pre-register fingerprints, but a solution could yet be found.

What can I do now?

Many of our readers want to get organised now and register their details in advance to avoid border delays. Unfortunately this is not possible and at the moment all you can do is wait until the system comes into effect. Frustrating, we know.

What about dual nationals?

People who have dual nationality of an EU and non-EU nation (eg British and Irish passports or American and Italian passports) will not be required to complete EES checks if they are travelling on their EU passport.

If, however, they are travelling on their non-EU passport they would need to complete EES registration.

EES does not change any of the rules relating to dual nationality or to travelling as a dual national – full details HERE.

What’s the situation for non-EU citizens resident in the EU/Schengen area?

The European Commission is clear about one point: EES does not apply to people who have residency in an EU country. This is because a major part of EES is catching over-stayers – which of course does not apply to people who are resident here.

What the Commission is a lot less clear about is how this will work in practice.

Most airports/port/stations have two queues: EU passports and non-EU passports. It’s not clear which queue non-EU citizens resident in the EU should use, how they can avoid automated passport checks entirely and use a manned booth (so that they can show both a passport and proof of residency) or even whether manned booths will be available at all departure points. 

What if I live in the EU but I don’t have a visa/residency permit? 

For most non-EU citizens, having either a visa or a residency permit is obligatory in order to be legally resident.

However, there is one exception: UK citizens who were legally resident in the EU prior to the end of the Brexit transition period and who live in one of the “declaratory” countries where getting a post-Brexit residency card was optional, rather than compulsory. Declaratory countries include Germany and Italy.

Although it is legal for people in this situation to live in those countries without a residency permit, authorities already advise people to get one in order to avoid confusion/hassle/delays at the border. Although EES does not change any rules relating to residency or travel, it seems likely that it will be more hassle to travel without a residency card than it is now.

Our advice? Things are going to be chaotic enough, getting a residency permit seems likely to save you a considerable amount of hassle. 

How does this affect the 90-day rule?

Citizens of certain non-EU countries – including the UK, US, Canada, New Zealand and Australia – are entitled to spend up to 90 days in every 180 in the EU without the need for a visa.

EES does not change this rule, so all the current regulations and restrictions continue to apply.

READ ALSO: How does the 90-day rule work?

What EES does change is the enforcement of the rule – at present non-EU nationals have their passports manually stamped on entry and exit, and border guards use these stamps to calculate whether people are sticking to their 90-day allowance.

It’s a bit of a hit-and-miss system, passports don’t always get stamped when they should, sometimes border guards misread the stamps and sometimes passports get stamped in error. EES should solve all of these problems by using an electronic scan of the passport and automatically calculating the 90-day allowance.

It will make it much harder for people to over-stay (indeed, this is one of its stated aims) but for people sticking to the rules it should actually be easier and more efficient. Should. If it works as advertised, that is…

What’s the deal for second-home owners?

For non-EU citizens who own property in the EU, it all depends on whether they have a visa or limit their visits to 90 days in every 180, as described above.

People who use the 90-day allowance will be subject to EES and use the system in the same way as short-stay tourists.

People who have a visa are exempt and need to show their visa at the border. As described in the “non-EU residents in the EU” section, however, it’s far from clear how this will actually work in practice at the border.

Why is the UK-France border such a problem?

As discussed above, EES will apply to all EU/Schengen external borders, but the biggest fears so far are about the UK-France border.

So is this just the Brits whining about the easily foreseeable consequences of Brexit? Actually no, there are genuine reasons why this border is likely to be a problem, mostly relating to volume of traffic and infrastructure.

Although it is true that EES wouldn’t have affected the UK-France border if it hadn’t been for Brexit, the current reasons for the worries are more practical.

Put simply, the UK-France border is one of the busiest EU external borders that there is, with around 60 million people crossing per year. Of those travellers, around 70 percent are UK citizens, meaning they will have to complete EES formalities.

Add to that the limitations of space: several UK destination points, including the Port of Dover and Eurostar’s London St Pancras terminal, are already in cramped areas with very little expansion room, meaning that creating the new infrastructure to deal with EES checks is very difficult.

For context, the newly completed EES pre-registration area at Coquelles (Calais) covers 7,000 square metres, in order to accommodate up to 60 passenger vehicles simultaneously.

The final factor is the Le Touquet agreement – the 2003 bilateral agreement between France and the UK means that passport checks for people entering France are done on UK soil, and vice versa. This creates a unique situation where people travelling from Eurostar Gare du Nord or St Pancras, the ports of Dover or Calais or the Channel Tunnel terminals of Folkestone and Coquelles go through two sets of passport checks on departure, and none on arrival.

READ ALSO: What is the Le Touquet agreement?

The double passport checks mean that delays at one area can have severe knock-on effects.

Since Brexit, the Port of Dover has reported long delays at several peak times such as the start of the school holidays while Eurostar has been forced to cut the number of trains it runs per day.

EES implementation problems won’t be limited to the UK-France border, but the volume of people crossing the border means that even slight delays to one system can easily lead to hours-long queues.

What about Nato staff or people with diplomatic passports?

People who have a special status such as diplomatic passports will not have to complete pre-registration. However, as with other exempt groups such as non-EU residents of the EU or visa holders, it is unclear how this will actually work on the ground and which passport queue they should join.

Will I need an extra visa to enter the EU as a tourist?

EES does not change anything with regards to visas – in essence all the current visa rules stay the same, only the enforcement changes.

However there is another change coming down the track – ETIAS, which will affect non-EU citizens entering the EU as tourists or visitors.

You can find an overview of how it works HERE, but one thing we do know is that it won’t be introduced until after EES is up and running and (hopefully) most of the problems ironed out.

One unholy mess at a time.

Will it really be an unholy mess?

The European Commission says: “The main advantage of the EES is saving time. The EES replaces passport stamping and automates border control procedures, making travelling to European countries using the EES more efficient for the traveller.”

Hmm.

As outlined above, there could be infrastructure problems at several departure points, there is as yet little clarity on certain import details and of course all new systems take time to bed in.

After the first year of operation things are likely to get smoother – by this time most regular travellers will have already completed the pre-registration and will therefore by able to move straight into getting their passport scanned, leaving only new travellers to complete the pre-registration formalities.

That first year, however, looks like it could be a little chaotic at certain borders, especially the UK-France one, at peak travel times such as the start of school holidays. 

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