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Is it really true you can’t get a decent curry in France?

Curry loving British expats have long complained about the Indian food on offer in France. But is it really true that you can't find a good curry on this side of the Channel?

Is it really true you can't get a decent curry in France?
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The complaints about the lack of good quality curries available in France from British expats are frequent and numerous. 
 
Recently a group of curry-loving British expats in France who yearned for a “proper Indian takeaway in France” even went as far as chartering their own plane, dubbed “curry air” to deliver a takeaway from the UK.
 
Many Brits who move to France lament that their days of chowing down on delicious spicy curries are behind them and their first port of call when visiting home is often not their family or friends but a curry house.
 
But is it true that a good curry is impossible to find on this side of the Channel? We asked our readers.  
 
“You can't get a good curry in France because there has traditionally been very little immigration from the countries concerned ie Bangladesh, Pakistan and India,” said Mandy Davies.
 
“Most immigration is from North Africa and, in the East, from Vietnam. Even when you do find restaurants selling curry they are adapted to the French taste. In my local town that means serving it as a sandwich with frites!!”
 
 
And crucially tailoring to it to French taste mean very little spice and much smaller portions to what curry eating Brits might be used to.
 
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British expats in France charter plane to deliver curry takeaway from UKPhoto: James Emery/Facebook

Reader Carlos Nilmmns agreed: “The last time I ordered pakora I only got 2 disappointing little crumb-like balls which accompanied some greasy fritter type thing which was not pakora… None of the restaurants I've visited here seem to put any spice in their curries either.”
 
And Liam Bogit told of his curry woes in the south of France.
 
“I have frequently eaten in Aix and in Salon and the food was tasteless and the popodoms were tiny and dry. I don't know whether it is also a question of getting the supplies (just like finding it hard getting decent beef for a nice roast),” he said. 
 
 
Many readers said that while it might not be impossible, finding a good place for a curry in France could be a challenge. 
 
“You really REALLY have to know where to look,” wrote Kieran Colfer. “And know some natives from whatever country you're looking for the curry from. And don't ask any French people, they don't know anything about curry, or spices.”
 
“Every 'ethnic' restaurant with very few exceptions tailors their recipes slightly to suit the local palate, so, 'genuine' is hard to get,” he added. 
 
Some readers suggested that if you're looking for a good curry in France, it might be best to just learn how to make one yourself at home.
 
Photo: SteFou!/Flickr
 
“Actually….do it yourself…it’s easy. Curry powders, mixes and paste – Indian and Asian – are available at many markets as is coconut milk,” said Ken Stern. 
 
Another reader, Karin McKenna agreed: “You can [find them] if you make them yourself. Unfortunately, Le Curry, is frequently nothing more than a faintly spicy yellow sauce.”
 
 
Others suggested a more extreme solution for getting a good curry. 
 
“Just catch a ferry to Brexit Kingdom for a proper Indian. Or be content with french food, it is good,” said Chris Gee. 
 
But there were some who were positive about their curry experiences in France. 
 
“There are some fantastic Indian restaurants in the bigger towns!!” said Kayley Wells. 
 
And if you're in Paris Steve Hayes recommends the Indian restaurants on Faubourg St Denis just alongside Gare du Nord including Dosas.
 
“We get up to Paris, eat there and then have the traditional family joke, ok we've had our Indian now, no need to catch the Eurostar. Crowded, quick and excellent,” said Hayes.
 
As for us at The Local France we can recommend Aux Comptoirs des Indes in the 11th although you'll need to ask them to spice it up for you and Lakshmi Bavan in the 9th arrondissement.
 
We would love to hear your recommendations so please join in the debate on our Facebook page.
 
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Is Switzerland’s male-only mandatory military service ‘discriminatory’?

Under Swiss law, all men must serve at least one year in compulsory national service. But is this discriminatory?

Swiss military members walk across a road carrying guns
A new lawsuit seeks to challenge Switzerland's male-only military service requirement. Is this discriminatory? FABRICE COFFRINI / AFP

All men aged between the ages of 18 and 30 are required to complete compulsory military service in Switzerland. 

A lawsuit which worked its way through the Swiss courts has now ended up in the European Court of Human Rights, where the judges will decide if Switzerland’s male-only conscription requirement violates anti-discrimination rules. 

Switzerland’s NZZ newspaper wrote on Monday the case has “explosive potential” and has “what it takes to cause a tremor” to a policy which was first laid out in Switzerland’s 1848 and 1874 Federal Constitutions. 

What is Switzerland’s compulsory military service? 

Article 59 of the Federal Constitution of Switzerland says “Every man with Swiss citizenship is liable for military service. Alternative civilian service shall be provided for by law.”

Recruits must generally do 18 weeks of boot camp (longer in some cases). 

They are then required to spend several weeks in the army every year until they have completed a minimum 245 days of service.

Military service is compulsory for Swiss men aged 18 and over. Women can chose to do military service but this is rare.

What about national rather than military service? 

Introduced in 1996, this is an alternative to the army, originally intended for those who objected to military service on moral grounds. 

READ MORE: The Swiss army’s growing problem with civilian service

Service is longer there than in the army, from the age of 20 to 40. 

This must be for 340 days in total, longer than the military service requirement. 

What about foreigners and dual nationals? 

Once you become a Swiss citizen and are between the ages of 18 and 30, you can expect to be conscripted. 

READ MORE: Do naturalised Swiss citizens have to do military service?

In general, having another citizenship in addition to the Swiss one is not going to exempt you from military service in Switzerland.

However, there is one exception: the obligation to serve will be waved, provided you can show that you have fulfilled your military duties in your other home country.

If you are a Swiss (naturalised or not) who lives abroad, you are not required to serve in the military in Switzerland, though you can voluntarily enlist. 

How do Swiss people feel about military and national service? 

Generally, the obligation is viewed relatively positively, both by the general public and by those who take part in compulsory service. 

While several other European countries have gotten rid of mandatory service, a 2013 referendum which attempted to abolish conscription was rejected by 73 percent of Swiss voters. 

What is the court case and what does it say? 

Martin D. Küng, the lawyer from the Swiss canton of Bern who has driven the case through the courts, has a personal interest in its success. 

He was found unfit for service but is still required to pay an annual bill to the Swiss government, which was 1662CHF for the last year he was required to pay it. 

While the 36-year-old no longer has to pay the amount – the obligation only lasts between the ages of 18 and 30 – Küng is bring the case on principle. 

So far, Küng has had little success in the Swiss courts, with his appeal rejected by the cantonal administrative court and later by the Swiss Federal Supreme Court. 

Previous Supreme Court cases, when hearing objections to men-only military service, said that women are less suitable for conscription due to “physiological and biological differences”.

In Küng’s case, the judges avoided this justification, saying instead that the matter was a constitutional issue. 

‘No objective reason why only men have to do military service’

He has now appealed the decision to the European level. 

While men have previously tried and failed when taking their case to the Supreme Court, no Swiss man has ever brought the matter to the European Court of Human Rights. 

Küng told the NZZ that he considered the rule to be unjust and said the Supreme Court’s decision is based on political considerations. 

“I would have expected the Federal Supreme Court to have the courage to clearly state the obvious in my case and not to decide on political grounds,” Küng said. 

“There is no objective reason why only men have to do military service or pay replacement taxes. On average, women may not be as physically productive as men, but that is not a criterion for excluding them from compulsory military service. 

There are quite a few men who cannot keep up with women in terms of stamina. Gender is simply the wrong demarcation criterion for deciding on compulsory service. If so, then one would have to focus on physical performance.”

Is it likely to pass? 

Küng is optimistic that the Strasbourg court will find in his favour, pointing to a successful appeal by a German man who complained about a fire brigade tax, which was only imposed on men. 

“This question has not yet been conclusively answered by the court” Küng said. 

The impact of a decision in his favour could be considerable, with European law technically taking precedence over Swiss law.

It would set Switzerland on a collision course with the bloc, particularly given the popularity of the conscription provision. 

Küng clarified that political outcomes and repercussions don’t concern him. 

“My only concern is for a court to determine that the current regulation is legally wrong.”

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