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Here’s what Americans in Italy think about the US elections

Earlier in the election cycle, The Local spoke to Americans living in Italy - from across the political spectrum - to find out which issues influenced their vote and how it feels to watch the election from abroad.

Here's what Americans in Italy think about the US elections
The candidates shake hands before the debate. Photo: AFP

As the result draws closer, we revisit their views – which varied from undecided to unwavering, and everything in between.

Several people commented that one of their motivations for moving abroad was to “get away from US politics”, while others explained how living abroad and speaking to Italians had helped inform their decision.

Kathleen, a retired New Yorker living near Genoa, told us: “More than one of my Italian friends has joked to me that now Americans know how Italians have felt for decades, with nothing but lousy choices on the ballot, always heading to the polls holding one's nose.

“However, everyone sees that for Italy to have poor leadership is nowhere near the problem for the world that America having bad leadership is.” 

This discontent with the choice of candidates was echoed by most of the people we spoke to, however they each held contrasting political views. So as we wait for tonight's announcement, here's what the election looks like from Italy…

The Clinton voter: 'She will make America stronger than ever'

Ramafrancesco, 46, born in San Francisco’s little Italy, has lived in Rome since 2010.

Ramafrancesco believes Hillary Clinton is the only choice for America. Photo: Private

I'm usually a Democrat and will vote for Clinton. The bottom line for America is ‘Hillary or bust’ – we are living in strange days indeed.

It seems that during economic depressions there is always a flamboyant person that rises to the occasion and poisons people's minds just like Trump is doing now. He's not a leader, not a politician; it was evident in the debate that he gets too emotional during interactions … How will he interact with world leaders in NATO meetings? And imagine him with his finger on the nuclear button – that's a scary image.

In this election we don't have “candidates”, we only have one choice: Hillary Clinton. Sure, she has messed up here and there as every leader does, but she's bringing 30 years of political experience to the table. You’d be blind not to see she is the only option for the USA . I believe she is the woman with the plan and she will get America stronger than ever. Trump can go back to doing what he does best … being a funny TV celebrity. 

As an Italian American, if Trump somehow takes the White House, I will seriously consider not touching USA soil until he's out of office. I’ll finally get my Italian citizenship as to not have to show my USA passport ever time I travel and get laughed at. 

The Trump voter: 'The Clintons already had their chance'

Janice, originally from New York, has lived in Sardinia since 2008.

I think everyone has decided who they are voting for now. I am a registered Republican but haven't voted that way in many years. I consider myself independent and would never be a liberal; Trump is the lesser of the two evils. The Clintons had their eight-year opportunity already, and stole the White House china, furniture and silverware*. I don’t want someone with this sort of character and entitlement to be a leader of my country.

For me, honesty and character play the most important part in an election, and I am voting for my grandchildren's future, not my own.

Janice believes Donald Trump is the ''lesser of two evils”. Photo: Spencer Platt/Getty Images North America/AFP

Anyone who reads knows the details of her criminal behaviour and if people truly understand the details of the tax evaded by the Clinton Foundation**, I am doubly sad.. But maybe they don't want to believe them.

The moderator of the debate seemed to me to have been either paid off or instructed to interrupt and intimidate. How can the American people make an intelligent choice with the media bias? It’s pretty frustrating to try to explain to friends here…and I have pretty much stopped trying.

*The claim that the Clintons stole White House furniture has been fact checked here: Bill Clinton was asked to return $28,000 worth of gifts he had kept, after they were judged to have been given as gifts to the White House rather than to him personally (Ex-presidents are only allowed to keep any gifts given to them personally after leaving office) 

**An independent analysis of where the money donated to the Clinton Foundation goes can be found here. Hillary Clinton has published her personal tax returns, and the Clinton Foundation, which has been granted tax-exempt status, publishes its audited financial reports online.

The third party voter: They won't win, but it's my right to vote how I choose

Erica, 23, is from West Virginia and moved to northern Italy, near Venice, in June 2014.

Erica with an advertisement that 'shows the election is laughable'. Photo: Private

This will be my first time voting in the general election. Prior to that I was registered as an independent, but for the primary elections this past summer I voted Democrat in order to vote for Bernie Sanders. I have since switched back to independent and plan on voting for Jill Stein.

A good 95 percent of her views line up with mine, unlike Trump or Clinton; the debate proved that they are both a mess. Many people choose to vote for the “lesser of the two evils,” but I cannot allow myself to vote for either evil. I know Stein will not win, but I am expressing my right to vote exactly how I choose and ultimately I will not feel at all responsible for either of the unsatisfactory candidates who may end up as president.

I try not to discuss these things with too many people here in order not to cause confrontation; we all have very strong feelings. However, I visited London last week and I heard some other opinions from Europeans, who all agree that this election is laughable – as the advertisement in my picture [above] shows!

Overall, the choice of candidates in this election is just sad, because our political system is rigged in favour of those who answer to the richest one percent of our population. 

The undecided voter: America deserves better, I may leave the box blank

Andy, from Wyoming, now lives in Bergamo.

After having to spend six years apologizing for George W. Bush, I'm afraid I'll have to do it again for Trump or Clinton, no matter who wins. America (and the world) deserve better. 

Trump is grossly unqualified and although Clinton has experience, she doesn't have many accomplishments. Experience is important but it's also important that you've learned from your experiences. Trump would be a disastrous president but Clinton will be a wasted four years in office, while the world needs strong American global engagement. 

I plan on voting absentee but I don't know if I will vote for the President. My state is heavily Republican so my vote really won't change much. I may just vote for my state representatives and leave the President block blank.

New York native Kathleen has lived on the Italian Riviera since 2008.

I never vote for Republicans and I am totally fed up with the Democratic Party, which should have known better than to run a candidate as problematic as Hillary Clinton, especially at a moment when Americans want and need change. 

The most difficult decision of the 2016 election has been trying to decide if it is better for America to use one's vote to support building alternatives to the duopoly, or take no risk whatsoever and pile on with Hillary Clinton to ensure a Trump defeat. Trump's bigoted rhetoric makes him unfit for any public position in America. He is a positive danger to everyone living in the US.

All the Italians I know recognize Trump is an arrogant, opportunistic blowhard – they know this kind of politician all too well – but quite a few feel that Hillary Clinton is two-faced and too fond of military solutions, too beholden to a rotting status-quo. 

Clinton is poised but problematic, Kathleen says. Photo: AFP

In the debate it was clear that Clinton was more poised and in command of the moment, running circles around Trump with her remarkable fluency in policy details. But over the long run, I don't know if Clinton will come out ahead; her own past is problematic and many voters really do care more about the ongoing wars in the Middle East, inner city and rural poverty, affordable health care and student debt, and might resent what they see as the attempt to distract from her record.

I wish the media would do more to insist on a substantive debate, especially about climate change. I don't think it's good for America that most of the media feel justified in uncritically pushing the elite point of view of the Clintons, portraying Trump's supporters as fashion-challenged unattractive people full of bigotry and backward views.

Trump's appeal to enormous numbers of voters is evidence of a perfectly understandable and overdue reckoning for mistakes elites have made for many decades, at the expense of way too many Americans and people abroad. People are not stupid to be upset by aftermath of the financial crisis, to see that the system is rigged against them, that their vote means less, that America wastes money abroad on wars that bring nothing but more trouble. 

 

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POLITICS

How much control does Giorgia Meloni’s government have over Italian media?

There's been renewed debate over the state of press freedom in Italy following warnings that Meloni's administration is seeking "control" of Italy's media. But what's behind these reports?

How much control does Giorgia Meloni's government have over Italian media?

Press freedom is at the centre of fresh debate in Italy this week after Spanish newspaper El País on Saturday published an article titled “Meloni wants all the media power in Italy.”

The report, which was picked up by Italian newspaper La Repubblica, suggests that the Italian prime minister and her right-wing executive is looking to “monopolise” national print and broadcast outlets

It follows reports in English-language media recently describing how Meloni is accused of trying to stamp her authority on Italian arts and media in what critics call a “purge” of dissenting voices.

Meloni and members of her administration have long faced accusations of trying to silence journalists and intimidate detractors. Media organisations say this often takes the form of high-profile politicians bringing lawsuits against individual journalists, and cite the defamation case brought by Meloni against anti-mafia reporter Roberto Saviano in 2023 as a prime example.

READ ALSO: Six things to know about the state of press freedom in Italy

Discussions over media independence aren’t new in Italy, as the country has consistently ranked poorly in the annual Press Freedom reports by Reporters without Borders in recent years. Italy came in 41st out of 180 in the 2023 ranking, which made it the worst country in western Europe for press freedom.

But what’s behind the recent allegations that the government is trying to exert a more direct influence?

Meloni, Porta a Porta

Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni on Italian national TV show Porta a Porta in Rome on April 4th 2024. Photo by Filippo MONTEFORTE / AFP

National television

The article from El País accuses Meloni’s cabinet of effectively controlling Italy’s two biggest national broadcasters: state-owned RAI and commercial broadcaster Mediaset.

While Mediaset and its three main channels (Rete 4, Canale 5 and Italia 1) have long been seen as ‘loyal’ to Meloni’s executive – the network was founded by the late Silvio Berlusconi, whose Forza Italia party continues to be a key member of the ruling coalition – the government’s ties with public broadcaster RAI are more complex.

Unlike state-owned broadcasters in other European countries, RAI is not controlled by a regulatory body but rather by the government itself, which means that the network has always been particularly susceptible to political influences. 

But Meloni’s cabinet is accused of exerting unprecedented power over the broadcaster following the replacement of former top executives with figures considered closer to the government.

Salvini, RAI

Italy’s Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini speaks with Italian journalist Bruno Vespa during the talk show Porta a Porta, broadcast on Italian channel Rai 1. Photo by Andreas SOLARO / AFP

Last May, Carlo Fuortes resigned as RAI’s CEO saying that he couldn’t possibly “accept changes opposed to RAI’s interests”. He was replaced by centrist Roberto Sergio, who in turn appointed Giampaolo Rossi – a “loyalist” of Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party – as the network’s general director. 

Sergio and Rossi’s appointment was closely followed by a general management reshuffle which saw figures close to the government occupy key positions within the company. This led to critics and journalists dubbing the network ‘TeleMeloni’.

Print media 

Besides concerns over its sway on Italy’s main broadcast networks, Meloni’s executive is currently under heavy scrutiny following the rumoured takeover of Italy’s AGI news agency by the right-wing Angelucci publishing group. 

The group is headed by Antonio Angelucci, an MP for Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini’s hard-right League party, and owner of three right-wing newspapers: Il Giornale, Libero and Il Tempo.

News of the potential takeover from Angelucci sparked a series of strikes and demonstrations from the news agency’s journalists in recent weeks, with reporters raising concerns over the independence and autonomy of journalists in the event of an ownership change.

The leader of the centre-left Democratic Party Elly Schlein weighed in on the matter last week, saying that the sale of Italy’s second-largest news agency to a ruling coalition MP would be “inadmissible”.

Further debate over press freedom in the country emerged in early March after three journalists from the left-wing Domani newspaper were accused of illegally accessing and publishing private data regarding a number of high-profile people, including Defence Minister Guido Crosetto, and the late Silvio Berlusconi’s girlfriend. 

The newspaper has so far condemned the investigation, saying it is “a warning to Domani and all journalists” and a further threat to media independence in a country ranked amongst the worst in Europe for press freedom.

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