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Fran Healy from Travis: ‘Berlin is where it’s happening’

Travis frontman Fran Healy talks to Exberliner’s Julie Colthrope about the Scottish band’s new album and his fondness for Berlin – his new home.

Fran Healy from Travis: 'Berlin is where it’s happening'
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Bridging the gap between late-period Oasis-style lager-lad bands and early-day Coldplay-mode weepy-feely, Travis have come a long way since Fran Healy borrowed £600 from his mum back in 1996 to pay for the recording of their first single. From Glasgow to London and from London to New York, Healy has now opted for “happening” Berlin. Despite a calm reaction to their previous album, this is no retirement: Travis’ new album “Ode to J. Smith” is due out at the end of September, and Healy has been busy with the band on promotional tours in the Far East. This hasn’t left much time for him to hang out in his apartment in Prenzlauer Berg, where he’s settled with his wife and two-year-old son.

Why Berlin?

My wife Nora is German and we had been playing with the idea of a move to Berlin for a couple of years. I think it’s important to change your backdrop every 10 years or so, as things start to get mundane and you become too settled in your comfort zones. We had been living in Soho, New York until last October, when we decided to make the move. It was very easy, really; Nora came over and rented a flat for three weeks in Mitte and checked the city out. Then I found an apartment in Prenzlauer Berg on a website and bought it. I think Berlin is where it’s happening and it’s good to be in a place that is on the up – any city that is experiencing a resurgence is a great place to be.

So how does Berlin compare to New York?

Berlin is a world stage and very similar to New York in the early eighties. It is like Soho was in the eighties, where co-ops were created out of the old textile buildings and the place became a hive of creativity. Today, New York is too expensive and the creativity has been squeezed out of the city. People with loads of cash don’t have good ideas; it’s the poor people who have the ideas, so the rich hire poor, creative people to think for them. Now all the artists are leaving Manhattan and moving to Williamsburg, which is where it’s all happening now. I was recently talking to the singer from Ladytron, who’s from Bulgaria, and when I told her I had moved to Berlin she became super-excited and her face lit up.

Echt? What’s so special?

I have only lived here since March, but I love the fact that there aren’t dozens of chain stores like there are in the UK except, of course, Kaiser’s, but that’s OK because Kaiser’s rocks! I live in Prenzlauer Berg, and I have yet to find a Starbucks there. It’s not like in London where there’s one on every corner. It’s really special here; there are loads of cute little cafés everywhere.

How does German society compare to British society?

I prefer it on an economic, social and emotional level – even from my earliest impressions. It’s not a capitalist society in the way that Britain is. The Brits are obsessed with buying houses, the latest gadgets, etc. Germans aren’t into all that. They save their money and rent. When I moved to Berlin, I really became aware of Thatcher’s Britain, the yuppies and the whole capitalist aspect of British society. I wasn’t aware of it when I was a kid growing up. Socially, Berlin is better balanced. OK, so maybe Mitte is a capitalist enclave of Berlin with all your H&Ms and High Street stores, but it’s a far cry from being like Britain. And Sundays are great here, because they are quiet. They should enforce Sunday closing in Britain.

What about the Germans themselves?

I like the way Germans are forthright and tell you what they think. If they don’t like the album they’ll tell you. You know where you stand with the Germans. It’s very healthy, the total opposite to the stiff upper lip of the British.

How’s your German?

Pretty non-existent. We’re bringing up our son bilingual but he’s started saying things to me in German that I don’t understand so I’m going to have to start learning German too.

It’s only been a year since your last album, “The Boy With No Name”.

We had taken a two-and-a-half year break before recording “The Boy With No Name”, where we returned to normalcy and took time out to have kids. But we still have a lot to prove to ourselves and to our fans.

 

We wanted to continue the momentum of the last album and went straight into recording the next one to make up for a bit of lost ground. We are best known for our gentle, acoustic melodies, but “Ode to J. Smith” is definitely more rocky and edgier than the others, with more electric guitars, whilst still being very melodic at the same time. It’s funny with Travis: People come to the shows expecting the songs to sound like they do on the album but we are much heavier live – more rock ‘n’ roll. This album is closer to what a live show would be.

How’s the reaction to the album so far?

It’s been amazing. It’s overwhelming – we haven’t experienced such a reaction since the release of “The Man Who”. The funny thing is that when we released “The Man Who”, the Germans refused to release it until a year later. They wanted to wait to see if it was a success in the UK before releasing it in Germany!

You recorded “Ode to J. Smith” on your own label, Red Telephone Box – why?

Previously, we had had two five-year record deals with two major labels. But this time we thought, ‘Fuck it. We’ll do it ourselves.’ In Germany, the record is coming out on Universal Domestic and will be worked as a domestic act, which is cool because I live here now.

 

Running on your own gives you a lot of motivation and you really make it matter, you make it count. We have never been so ambitious or fired- up. Once you’ve sold millions of records, had number ones and headlined festivals it’s your job to maintain it and keep the ball rolling, which is one of the reasons we went off to have kids, because it’s hard to keep up the momentum. Now we are building it up again with the new album. We’re very committed, just with kids in arms this time around.

Does your family travel with you?

No, they stay at home. The schedule is extremely grueling and it will get harder before it gets easier. My son is only two, but he’s used to me being away. It’s hard. But I wouldn’t want him to be on tour with me. It’s no life for a kid. I want him to be in Prenzlauer Berg playing at the Spielplatz with his friends.

Travis’ new album “Ode to J. Smith” is out September 28. The single “Song to Self” will be released on September 16.

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EXPLAINED: Berlin’s latest Covid rules

In response to rapidly rising Covid-19 infection rates, the Berlin Senate has introduced stricter rules, which came into force on Saturday, November 27th. Here's what you need to know.

A sign in front of a waxing studio in Berlin indicates the rule of the 2G system
A sign in front of a waxing studio indicates the rule of the 2G system with access only for fully vaccinated people and those who can show proof of recovery from Covid-19 as restrictions tighten in Berlin. STEFANIE LOOS / AFP

The Senate agreed on the tougher restrictions on Tuesday, November 23rd with the goal of reducing contacts and mobility, according to State Secretary of Health Martin Matz (SPD).

He explained after the meeting that these measures should slow the increase in Covid-19 infection rates, which was important as “the situation had, unfortunately, deteriorated over the past weeks”, according to media reports.

READ ALSO: Tougher Covid measures needed to stop 100,000 more deaths, warns top German virologist

Essentially, the new rules exclude from much of public life anyone who cannot show proof of vaccination or recovery from Covid-19. You’ll find more details of how different sectors are affected below.

Shops
If you haven’t been vaccinated or recovered (2G – geimpft (vaccinated) or genesen (recovered)) from Covid-19, then you can only go into shops for essential supplies, i.e. food shopping in supermarkets or to drugstores and pharmacies.

Many – but not all – of the rules for shopping are the same as those passed in the neighbouring state of Brandenburg in order to avoid promoting ‘shopping tourism’ with different restrictions in different states.

Leisure
2G applies here, too, as well as the requirement to wear a mask with most places now no longer accepting a negative test for entry. Only minors are exempt from this requirement.

Sport, culture, clubs
Indoor sports halls will off-limits to anyone who hasn’t  been vaccinated or can’t show proof of recovery from Covid-19. 2G is also in force for cultural events, such as plays and concerts, where there’s also a requirement to wear a mask. 

In places where mask-wearing isn’t possible, such as dance clubs, then a negative test and social distancing are required (capacity is capped at 50 percent of the maximum).

Restaurants, bars, pubs (indoors)
You have to wear a mask in all of these places when you come in, leave or move around. You can only take your mask off while you’re sat down. 2G rules also apply here.

Hotels and other types of accommodation 
Restrictions are tougher here, too, with 2G now in force. This means that unvaccinated people can no longer get a room, even if they have a negative test.

Hairdressers
For close-contact services, such as hairdressers and beauticians, it’s up to the service providers themselves to decide whether they require customers to wear masks or a negative test.

Football matches and other large-scale events
Rules have changed here, too. From December 1st, capacity will be limited to 5,000 people plus 50 percent of the total potential stadium or arena capacity. And only those who’ve been vaccinated or have recovered from Covid-19 will be allowed in. Masks are also compulsory.

For the Olympic Stadium, this means capacity will be capped at 42,000 spectators and 16,000 for the Alte Försterei stadium. 

Transport
3G rules – ie vaccinated, recovered or a negative test – still apply on the U-Bahn, S-Bahn, trams and buses in Berlin. It was not possible to tighten restrictions, Matz said, as the regulations were issued at national level.

According to the German Act on the Prevention and Control of Infectious Diseases, people have to wear a surgical mask or an FFP2 mask  on public transport.

Christmas markets
The Senate currently has no plans to cancel the capital’s Christmas markets, some of which have been open since Monday. 

According to Matz, 2G rules apply and wearing a mask is compulsory.

Schools and day-care
Pupils will still have to take Covid tests three times a week and, in classes where there are at least two children who test positive in the rapid antigen tests, then tests should be carried out daily for a week.  

Unlike in Brandenburg, there are currently no plans to move away from face-to-face teaching. The child-friendly ‘lollipop’ Covid tests will be made compulsory in day-care centres and parents will be required to confirm that the tests have been carried out. Day-care staff have to document the results.

What about vaccination centres?
Berlin wants to expand these and set up new ones, according to Matz. A new vaccination centre should open in the Ring centre at the end of the week and 50 soldiers from the German army have been helping at the vaccination centre at the Exhibition Centre each day since last week.

The capacity in the new vaccination centre in the Lindencenter in Lichtenberg is expected to be doubled. There are also additional vaccination appointments so that people can get their jabs more quickly. Currently, all appointments are fully booked well into the new year.

 

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